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11-17-2015, 12:18 PM | #1 |
Gone Wild
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Club Car DS 2000.5 Vanguard Stub Shaft
I finally found a 23hp Vanguard to stick in my DS. Has anyone successfully added the stub shaft to the v-twin and ran the motor turned around with a vanguard? I saw a post the other day where someone was running a Kohler 25hp that way but I have not seen anyone with a Vanguard.
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11-17-2015, 05:10 PM | #2 |
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Re: Club Car DS 2000.5 Vanguard Stub Shaft
I'd be worried about all the stress on that side. That's a lot of pull on the flywheel side. It may not be as bad if your running something off the other side too, but I'd figure out something different than that fix.
Most that build one like you plan use a jack shaft from what I've seen. |
11-17-2015, 06:09 PM | #3 |
Gone Wild
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Re: Club Car DS 2000.5 Vanguard Stub Shaft
The Vanguard only has a bearing on the PTO side. The flywheel side just has a sleeve. The extra stress on that side will not be good for the motor. When the stub shaft is used, it usually drives a drive shaft and has very little side-load.
I am running a stub shaft to drive my supercharger. |
11-17-2015, 08:17 PM | #4 |
Gone Wild
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Re: Club Car DS 2000.5 Vanguard Stub Shaft
Right on. I figured I would just go the normal rev is fwd bit an install the 8:1 gears. Just didnt know if anyone was successful yet.
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11-24-2015, 09:09 PM | #5 |
Vegas modded 420
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Re: Club Car DS 2000.5 Vanguard Stub Shaft
People that did that I read about left the governor on the engine so rpm were limited. I don't know, lot of equipment runs stuff off the flywheel. My mower runs driveshaft and 62" mower deck with a double belt right off the flywheel, and nothing off the pto. They can get 4K hours out of them that way. I would make sure there was a bearing in there, maybe vanguards some have them some don't, I dunno this is on an onan.
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11-24-2015, 09:51 PM | #6 | |
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Re: Club Car DS 2000.5 Vanguard Stub Shaft
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11-25-2015, 09:01 AM | #7 |
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Re: Club Car DS 2000.5 Vanguard Stub Shaft
Then I would not run a clutch off the flywheel side, I agree. I was wondering if the HS gears would be a better deal anyway, by the time you fiddle around setting up a stub shaft you will have some time and expense and stock gearing. The HS gears should end up higher than stock forward gearing right? So if you want more gear you would get some. It would be especially helpful if you used a lower rpm/rpm limited BB. The engine swap would be a straight swap and yes you have to install the gears, but that was not that bad on the CC I did. Yanking the dirty rear out of the cart was the worst so don't forget to pressure wash it first or otherwise clean it up. I stood the rear on one tire and pulled it apart, laid the gears in, strapped it back together, it was pretty easy. That was an older CC about 92 I think. It added about 10mph it would do 28gps with the stock flathead hitting its limiter, cart was all stock other than gears and governor adjustment to go up to limiter.
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11-25-2015, 09:19 AM | #8 |
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Re: Club Car DS 2000.5 Vanguard Stub Shaft
I plan on dropping the rev kit and a cam in the vanguard 23. I will run as is for a while then see about 8:1 gears for a little more top end. It will be a while before I actually get started with the rev kit and cam. I don't get a ton of garage time with undivided attention to the cart so it will be a drawn out project.
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11-25-2015, 06:39 PM | #9 |
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12-02-2015, 01:32 PM | #10 | |
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