1994 carryall 2 vanguard 18hp will not shift into forward or reverse

camline39 · 12-21-2015, 12:49 AM

HI, i have a 1994 carryall 2 with a new vanguard 18hp engine swap kit. Engine is in and drive clutch pulleys and belt are lined up good.when engine is running at idle,i cannot get it to shift into forward or reverse and stay locked in.when i try,example forward, it will start going forward without hitting the gas pedal.Same thing in reverse.It should not move until throttle is pressed.Any help would be greatly appreciated.Thanks

Dave in VA · 12-21-2015, 10:42 AM

The idle is too high, or the belt is too tight...

Vinny73 · 12-21-2015, 01:19 PM

Yes, idle may be too high or belt is too tight! +1

camline39 · 12-21-2015, 07:28 PM

Thanks for reply.I have taken the belt off and measured it with a string and got 40 3/8 length x 1 1/8 wide.what size would you recommend going up to as i tend to agree that the belt feels a little tight. i adjust the idle down but did not have to go to far before it would want to die,so i think the idle was good were it was.thanks,Tim.

1989Marathon · 12-21-2015, 07:34 PM

The belt should be 1-3/16" wide. How did you measure to get the correct length belt?
What is the idle rpm?
How do you know the clutches are lined up properly? How did you check that?

comet8871 · 12-26-2015, 10:14 AM

I used a seamstress tape and went inside the drive clutch a and around the outside of the driven clutch and added 2inches,that worked great for me.

Shoeman · 02-01-2016, 10:34 PM

How do adjust the idle on a 23hp vanguard? Having same problem but will shift right if rpms were lower. I can force lower idle by pulling govener arm out to shift but how do you set it to idle lower.

1989Marathon · 02-02-2016, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeman

How do adjust the idle on a 23hp vanguard? Having same problem but will shift right if rpms were lower. I can force lower idle by pulling govener arm out to shift but how do you set it to idle lower.

What color is the governor spring? Red, or white?

Shoeman · 02-02-2016, 07:07 PM

Well govenor arm has like 3 springs on which I thought was overkill but took one off and rpms went higher. Mine springs are gold and two are silver. Could take a picture if that helps. Thanks

1989Marathon · 02-02-2016, 07:16 PM

Pics would help.

12-21-2015, 12:49 AM	#1
camline39 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 2	1994 carryall 2 vanguard 18hp will not shift into forward or reverse HI, i have a 1994 carryall 2 with a new vanguard 18hp engine swap kit. Engine is in and drive clutch pulleys and belt are lined up good.when engine is running at idle,i cannot get it to shift into forward or reverse and stay locked in.when i try,example forward, it will start going forward without hitting the gas pedal.Same thing in reverse.It should not move until throttle is pressed.Any help would be greatly appreciated.Thanks
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12-21-2015, 10:42 AM	#2
Dave in VA maintaining a low profile Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SW Virginia USA Posts: 6,314	Re: 1994 carryall 2 vanguard 18hp will not shift into forward or reverse The idle is too high, or the belt is too tight...

12-21-2015, 01:19 PM	#3
Vinny73 Gone Wild Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: San Diego,CA Posts: 622	Re: 1994 carryall 2 vanguard 18hp will not shift into forward or reverse Yes, idle may be too high or belt is too tight! +1

12-21-2015, 07:28 PM	#4
camline39 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 2	Re: 1994 carryall 2 vanguard 18hp will not shift into forward or reverse Thanks for reply.I have taken the belt off and measured it with a string and got 40 3/8 length x 1 1/8 wide.what size would you recommend going up to as i tend to agree that the belt feels a little tight. i adjust the idle down but did not have to go to far before it would want to die,so i think the idle was good were it was.thanks,Tim.
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12-21-2015, 07:34 PM	#5
1989Marathon Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,730	Re: 1994 carryall 2 vanguard 18hp will not shift into forward or reverse The belt should be 1-3/16" wide. How did you measure to get the correct length belt? What is the idle rpm? How do you know the clutches are lined up properly? How did you check that?
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12-26-2015, 10:14 AM	#6
comet8871 Getting Wild Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: north myrtle beach sc,lake tillery nc Posts: 135	Re: 1994 carryall 2 vanguard 18hp will not shift into forward or reverse I used a seamstress tape and went inside the drive clutch a and around the outside of the driven clutch and added 2inches,that worked great for me.

02-01-2016, 10:34 PM	#7
Shoeman Getting Wild Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 109	Re: 1994 carryall 2 vanguard 18hp will not shift into forward or reverse How do adjust the idle on a 23hp vanguard? Having same problem but will shift right if rpms were lower. I can force lower idle by pulling govener arm out to shift but how do you set it to idle lower.

02-02-2016, 07:07 PM	#9
Shoeman Getting Wild Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 109	Re: 1994 carryall 2 vanguard 18hp will not shift into forward or reverse Well govenor arm has like 3 springs on which I thought was overkill but took one off and rpms went higher. Mine springs are gold and two are silver. Could take a picture if that helps. Thanks

02-02-2016, 07:16 PM	#10
1989Marathon Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,730	Re: 1994 carryall 2 vanguard 18hp will not shift into forward or reverse Pics would help.
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