Clutch for Kohler 23 HP????

tonyton · 05-25-2009, 01:02 PM

I just inheritied (No one died) a 23 hp Kohler that needs a top end. I don't want to WASTE a penny on it without knowing about a clutch that will fit. This is what I got. 1" tapered to 1 1/8 within a 1' span with a key way. It's a little countersunk at the block (see pics)Leaving only 3/4 for a clutch.
Does anyone Know what will fit?? Thanks in advance.

I'm 80% done with a 350 mod and Dad says, "you should rebuild the Kohler and use it"

Should have told me that $800.00 dollars ago!

Good old Dad

CC-John · 05-25-2009, 02:51 PM

Hate to tell ya Tony, but you might be buying a crankshaft for that one to be able to install a clutch.. That engine must have come off of a Kohler standby/RV generator, or was used on some type of pump application to have that oddball crankshaft..

pizzamaker · 05-25-2009, 02:53 PM

my guess is a electric pto clutch, with the hydro run off the flywheel end

dock98 · 05-25-2009, 03:09 PM

or a generator?

pizzamaker · 05-25-2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dock98

or a generator?

yep

you boys are right! generator

tonyton · 05-25-2009, 05:43 PM

That actually came out of a Toro Workman (dumptruck thing). One side powers the Hydraulic pump the other side was for the PTO or something/ Flywheel. I didnt pay much attention when it was installed, I did check the rotation. CC at the shaft.
It was generator family engine. They changed newer models.
That's too bad. At least it was priced right. $0.00

It had a manual clutch w/ 3 speed trans. and sat normally (like a truck) Probably had a clutch plate on the shaft.
It was worth a try. Let me know if anyone comes up with something. Thanks, Tony

tonyton · 05-25-2009, 07:39 PM

Has any one ever?? That shaft had a flywheel /clutch/ bellhousing/trans./etc... I talked to Pops.
Are there any clutches that could be secured through the back side? Thick rear sheave?
Could a flywheel be used to hold the clutch from the backside? Center the clutch, drill / tap countersunk machine screws through / from the back, to secure the clutch. It would make the clutch/ flywheel one piece. Then use a key and long bolt to secure the new unit to the shaft..... WHAT DO YOU THINK ??

tonyton · 05-25-2009, 09:39 PM

This was moved to "Kohler flywheel mod??" Thanks

CC-John · 05-25-2009, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyton

Has any one ever?? That shaft had a flywheel /clutch/ bellhousing/trans./etc... I talked to Pops.
Are there any clutches that could be secured through the back side? Thick rear sheave?
Could a flywheel be used to hold the clutch from the backside? Center the clutch, drill / tap countersunk machine screws through / from the back, to secure the clutch. It would make the clutch/ flywheel one piece. Then use a key and long bolt to secure the new unit to the shaft..... WHAT DO YOU THINK ??

Since you got squat invested in this engine so far.. I'd see how much a new standard keyed crankshaft cost, along with a standard rotation camshaft.. I think even after freshening up the engine with the new cam & crank, you'd have way less than the cost of that engine new...

tonyton · 05-25-2009, 10:26 PM

That's the kind of thing I wanted to hear. I'll call/search to see if I can't come up with a price for a standard keyed crank/ camshaft. I knew there had to be a way. The motor ran, but is worn. tHANKS for the reply. tony

05-25-2009, 02:51 PM	#2
CC-John prop. A$$hole's Garage Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Deep inside the Central Scrutinizer (77096) Posts: 1,587	Re: Clutch for Kohler 23 HP???? Hate to tell ya Tony, but you might be buying a crankshaft for that one to be able to install a clutch.. That engine must have come off of a Kohler standby/RV generator, or was used on some type of pump application to have that oddball crankshaft..

05-25-2009, 02:53 PM	#3
pizzamaker ****tard supreme Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: waldo,wisconsin Posts: 5,401	Re: Clutch for Kohler 23 HP???? my guess is a electric pto clutch, with the hydro run off the flywheel end

05-25-2009, 03:09 PM	#4
dock98 doin it in the desert Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sonora Desert,Az Posts: 5,603	Re: Clutch for Kohler 23 HP???? or a generator?

05-25-2009, 05:43 PM	#6
tonyton Gone Wild Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,120	Re: Clutch for Kohler 23 HP???? That actually came out of a Toro Workman (dumptruck thing). One side powers the Hydraulic pump the other side was for the PTO or something/ Flywheel. I didnt pay much attention when it was installed, I did check the rotation. CC at the shaft. It was generator family engine. They changed newer models. That's too bad. At least it was priced right. $0.00 It had a manual clutch w/ 3 speed trans. and sat normally (like a truck) Probably had a clutch plate on the shaft. It was worth a try. Let me know if anyone comes up with something. Thanks, Tony

05-25-2009, 07:39 PM	#7
tonyton Gone Wild Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,120	Re: Clutch for Kohler 23 HP???? Has any one ever?? That shaft had a flywheel /clutch/ bellhousing/trans./etc... I talked to Pops. Are there any clutches that could be secured through the back side? Thick rear sheave? Could a flywheel be used to hold the clutch from the backside? Center the clutch, drill / tap countersunk machine screws through / from the back, to secure the clutch. It would make the clutch/ flywheel one piece. Then use a key and long bolt to secure the new unit to the shaft..... WHAT DO YOU THINK ??

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05-25-2009, 09:39 PM	#8
tonyton Gone Wild Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,120	Re: Clutch for Kohler 23 HP???? This was moved to "Kohler flywheel mod??" Thanks

05-25-2009, 10:26 PM	#10
tonyton Gone Wild Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,120	Re: Clutch for Kohler 23 HP???? That's the kind of thing I wanted to hear. I'll call/search to see if I can't come up with a price for a standard keyed crank/ camshaft. I knew there had to be a way. The motor ran, but is worn. tHANKS for the reply. tony

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