through shaft for '97 or newer club cars

kevinandrew

if you have a '97, or new club car and your motor needs replacing, or you just want to go and 'big block' it but don't want to fool with running in reverse to go forward, and compensate with high speed gears that will result in a really fast reverse, and an ok forward......plus fooling around with swaping springs in your driven clutch, and rebuilding your driving clutch so that the will work when spinning counter clockwise.........why not fabricate a 'through shaft' for your counter clockwise motor and spin it around when you mount it in your cart. lawn mowers run throughshafts to turn the transaxel on one side and the pto clutch for the mower belt on the other side.

why couldn't a through shaft be fabricated and bolted on to a counter clockwise motor for running the the club car clutch????? i have a clone motor i'm thinking about doing this with. what's the worse thing that can happen?????? i kill a clone motor? maybe it will live and work great. riding lawn mowers use this set up all the time and it works very well. i'm pretty sure that the torque and rpm going to the mower deck is far greater than that going to the transaxel. so aside from no one has really tried this, can any give me a good reason why this wouldn't work?

BGW

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arsoncop

I saw one this weekend , it was a 2000 CC with a 18 hp vanny in it. the flywheel side of the motor was on the clutch side and it had a shaft bolted to the flywheel, it was running the stock clutch, ran good and sounded good.

BLACK DEATH

I started a thread a while back about this as I have a 99 I wanna BB it but as cheaply as possible. I havent looked into the clone to see if you can mount the pto shaft or through shaft on the other side. Take some pics of that side and lets see if one could be mounted on it. I wouldnt mind spending the money to do this but I am sure there are more issues than just a shaft. Since you have your motor out, how well does the clone fit in the cradle for the clockwise rotation? Does the output shaft hit anything or will be in the way for anything? If it fits good then we need to see about the pto shaft. Ive seen some for sale on ebay for all types of small engines.

Another thing is that I talked to a guy from Kohler small engines and told him what I was trying to do. He told me that the pto side does have a smaller bearing but it shouldnt be anything to worry about as the golf cart clutches dont put that much of a side load he figured. So I was gonna try it but I couldnt see spending a lot of money on a small engine and it wouldnt work, but a clone is worth it unless we find a small engine with a pto shaft on it.

Also I have an 18 vanny I got for $150 running for a trade. I had what he wanted and I only had $150 in that part. I thought about doing it to this engine but where am I gonna find a vanny this cheap ever again???? This vanny will go into my 90 cart if I ever get the finger out but it runs good with the flat head on stock wheels

kevinandrew

blackdeath,

i saw your thread a while ago. probably commented on it. i'm wishing i had bought the motor out of a zero turn mower a few months ago. it had a through shaft...but i wanted an ohv motor. did some tearing into the clone. i think it can be done. need did dig a little farther in. just went back to work so i can afford to fool with it some more, but work is seriously taking up my time. more later. it's too hot in the garage 92degrees + humid. jumping in da pool now.

BLACK DEATH

I had the chance to buy an opposed twin and the guy said it had the pto shaft for $150 or something like that locally. I lost his number cause I wouldve tried it for that price

kevinandrew

i think you could make an opposed twin fit and work. i've seen it done. i just wanted over head valves. i found a similar motor and passed it up. i took the recoil starter, and fanshroud off to look at what i would be dealing with. need to take some more stuff off. i put the motor in 'backwards' to look at the fit. it can be stuffed in there with a little modification. a lot people run motors in their ez gos like this. why not. what could go wrong. only real concern is fabbing up a stub shaft that is balanced enough to run the clutch on.

kevinandrew

taking clone flywheel, and club car tapered shaft over to machinist on saturday to see about fabing up a pto shaft for clockwise rotation. will probably need to find a different belt because it will definately be longer than the one i found earlier. if this works it will mean that there will be no more fooling around with swapping clutch springs, and reverse gear being used to go forward etc. so, high speed gears later will be much better......when i have the $$$$$$.

BLACK DEATH

Cant wait to here the results

kevinandrew

did some more research. looks very possible. stub shaft will eliminate the need to rebuild the driven clutch and the driving clutch, i wont' need a tapered shaft adpter....$ 50.00 savings. don't need a new spring for the driven clutch whatever that would cost. just need to find a longer belt. and there will be no more reverse/forward issues.

the next thing i'm getting pretty excited about is the yamaha blaster i found. if everything goes well it will be donating it's front suspension/brakes and stearing to the cart.

now all i need is time to work all this out.

kevinandrew

more info: as it turns out the clone flywheel has the same bolt pattern as a tecumsa flywheel. so, a throughshaft off a tecumsa motor will work on the clone. just need to have a bolt made with a shoulder on on it so the shaft can be centered for perfect balance, an have the shaft tapped and threaded so the bolt won't turn out while the clutch is spinning. why don't more '97 and new clubcars get saved this way? cost: $90.00 bucks for shaft (off the shelf part), $50.00 bucks for tapered shaft adpter. later i can post a part number later if anyone else needs to go this route.