18 or 23 HP DECISIONS DECISIONS ???

sierrakjf · 10-06-2010, 04:37 PM

Yamaha g2 5 inch lift 22" tires. Looking for reliability and power, well of course the cost is a factor as well. All over this forum CPP seems to be the place to go yet I have spoke with Alpha carts and with Performance v Twins. They all have there own opinions so I'm confused

Yes I want to pull some hills and keep up with the Rhinos and if I had the money I would be buying a Razor (yet this cart building is WAY more fun).
So 18 or 23 hp stock or pumped-up. I was thinking to go 30 HP but then after reading the posts on here I'm not so sure reliable ? I also will be doing some slow speed as well at the shooting club. Looking to get some help
Thanks
Ken

roady89 · 10-06-2010, 04:42 PM

CPP's full tilt 23 puts out more than 23 HP. Ive never heard of them being unreliable. If you want a bolt in deal with plenty of support you can't go wrong with CPP's kit. CPP is the builder, not the reseller.

TheNewGuy · 10-06-2010, 07:24 PM

Go with the 23 loaded up at CPP and have Tom rework your driven clutch.

Flintrock · 10-06-2010, 07:58 PM

Go with the 23, best of all worlds. When mildly tweaked will give you all the performance and still be reliable. If down the road you really want to open it up with cams, carbs etc it's the best platform to build on.

sierrakjf · 10-07-2010, 01:31 PM

I havent heard much talk of working on the driven clutch what can be done for improvements ? Once the new motor is installed is it in the new clutch to allow the motor to idle ? how about to warm it up ? The neutral position on my cart is VERY tempremental and has "jumped" on me several times. i have seen lots of videos of guys reving there "big blocks and the clutch not engageing, whats up with that. AS I ahve said I'm new to building up carts and never worked on a ride with the centrifugal clutch any advice / help would be well received. I have made up my mind and will fo with Tom of CPP for the whole engine upgrade kit.

I dont care for his exhaust any other options ?

Thanks, this cart thing is getting addictive !!!

I posted pics of my rollcage on lifted carts this morning

sho305 · 10-11-2010, 07:10 PM

They say the 18 with a rev kit is the fastest, it will rev higher due to smaller stroke iirc. But if you get the 23 you can get more later on, has more torque. You will need a really good suspension to run with the rhinos and such.

Maxster · 10-11-2010, 07:54 PM

Took the 23 hp Briggs Club Car to Bundy Hill http://www.bundyhilloffroad.com to run with the Rhinos. Trust me they will take everything you got. Go with 23 hp Briggs rev kit and cam from CPP! And yes I found that you will need a really good suspension to run with the rhinos.

sho305 · 10-12-2010, 07:23 AM

Yeah a cam will really wake them up, you can clutch higher.

10-06-2010, 04:37 PM	#1
sierrakjf Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Jose CA. Posts: 55	18 or 23 HP DECISIONS DECISIONS ??? Yamaha g2 5 inch lift 22" tires. Looking for reliability and power, well of course the cost is a factor as well. All over this forum CPP seems to be the place to go yet I have spoke with Alpha carts and with Performance v Twins. They all have there own opinions so I'm confused Yes I want to pull some hills and keep up with the Rhinos and if I had the money I would be buying a Razor (yet this cart building is WAY more fun). So 18 or 23 hp stock or pumped-up. I was thinking to go 30 HP but then after reading the posts on here I'm not so sure reliable ? I also will be doing some slow speed as well at the shooting club. Looking to get some help Thanks Ken

10-06-2010, 04:42 PM	#2
roady89 nimda Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 13,022	Re: 18 or 23 HP DECISIONS DECISIONS ??? CPP's full tilt 23 puts out more than 23 HP. Ive never heard of them being unreliable. If you want a bolt in deal with plenty of support you can't go wrong with CPP's kit. CPP is the builder, not the reseller.
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10-06-2010, 07:24 PM	#3
TheNewGuy Admin/Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,044	Re: 18 or 23 HP DECISIONS DECISIONS ??? Go with the 23 loaded up at CPP and have Tom rework your driven clutch.
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10-06-2010, 07:58 PM	#4
Flintrock Raised by coyotes Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central Texas Posts: 5,658	Re: 18 or 23 HP DECISIONS DECISIONS ??? Go with the 23, best of all worlds. When mildly tweaked will give you all the performance and still be reliable. If down the road you really want to open it up with cams, carbs etc it's the best platform to build on.

10-07-2010, 01:31 PM	#5
sierrakjf Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Jose CA. Posts: 55	Re: 18 or 23 HP DECISIONS DECISIONS ??? I havent heard much talk of working on the driven clutch what can be done for improvements ? Once the new motor is installed is it in the new clutch to allow the motor to idle ? how about to warm it up ? The neutral position on my cart is VERY tempremental and has "jumped" on me several times. i have seen lots of videos of guys reving there "big blocks and the clutch not engageing, whats up with that. AS I ahve said I'm new to building up carts and never worked on a ride with the centrifugal clutch any advice / help would be well received. I have made up my mind and will fo with Tom of CPP for the whole engine upgrade kit. I dont care for his exhaust any other options ? Thanks, this cart thing is getting addictive !!! I posted pics of my rollcage on lifted carts this morning

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10-11-2010, 07:10 PM	#6
sho305 Vegas modded 420 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: West MI Posts: 15,443	Re: 18 or 23 HP DECISIONS DECISIONS ??? They say the 18 with a rev kit is the fastest, it will rev higher due to smaller stroke iirc. But if you get the 23 you can get more later on, has more torque. You will need a really good suspension to run with the rhinos and such.

10-11-2010, 07:54 PM	#7
Maxster Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 299	Re: 18 or 23 HP DECISIONS DECISIONS ??? Took the 23 hp Briggs Club Car to Bundy Hill http://www.bundyhilloffroad.com to run with the Rhinos. Trust me they will take everything you got. Go with 23 hp Briggs rev kit and cam from CPP! And yes I found that you will need a really good suspension to run with the rhinos.
Maxster Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 299

10-12-2010, 07:23 AM	#8
sho305 Vegas modded 420 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: West MI Posts: 15,443	Re: 18 or 23 HP DECISIONS DECISIONS ??? Yeah a cam will really wake them up, you can clutch higher.

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