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07-28-2011, 04:38 PM | #1 |
Not Yet Wild
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa
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Need advice with front end
What I have is a custom built side-by-side (golf cart) using a few parts from a wreaked ATV, including the engine The vehicle runs great; it just doesn’t handle very well. Front end very squirrely, starts to wobble at speeds over 25 mph. I used the a-arms and spindles from the wreaked ATV, and mounted a pair of Honda 250 hubs with rotors. Fabricated a set of brackets to mount the calipers. First mistake I made was using 10” wheels, as they don’t have enough clearance to clear the calipers. Had to add a pair of wheel spacers to make it work. The wheels I purchased had a set of Hoosier dirt track tires mounted. Purchased wheels and tires because they were cheap. (Second mistake) Have tried different setting on the shocks (from soft to firm) with no change. Have tried a little toe-in also with no change. The rack and pinion box is brand new. Installed new wheel bearing. Everything is very tight on the front end. I guess the next thing I should try is different tires, but before I make that investment, I thought I would ask around to see if anyone has had experience with these tires or could offer suggestions. I’ve read many of the post here, and I can see you have a lot of very knowledgeable members. Thanks to all for your help and/or advice.
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07-28-2011, 04:59 PM | #2 |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Reddick IL
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Re: Need advice with front end
my guess is its a caster problem but it could be any number of things,
maybe park next to an atv and compare the steering action as you cycle both left and right? |
07-28-2011, 06:04 PM | #3 |
Gone Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chesterfield, Va
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Re: Need advice with front end
I would lean toward caster issues also, what degree of negative caster did you build into it?
You should be about 7 degrees for it to track effortlessly and help return to straight after a turn. |
07-28-2011, 06:13 PM | #4 |
Not Yet Wild
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa
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Re: Need advice with front end
Thanks for your info. Did not build in any caster, just installed the A-arms similar to the way they were in the original ATV. The original ATV used a single A-arm
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07-28-2011, 09:46 PM | #5 |
Gone Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chesterfield, Va
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Re: Need advice with front end
You need to put some neg caster in it then.
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07-29-2011, 08:56 AM | #6 |
Not Yet Wild
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa
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Re: Need advice with front end
Thanks for the input. A lot of work required, weld in new brackets for the control arms, redone the shock tower. Think I'll try a new and diffenert set of tires first. Thanks again.
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07-29-2011, 09:08 AM | #7 |
Feral
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Central Miss
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Re: Need advice with front end
heat and twist,....you only need to go 10 deg. I think on one of the sponser sites they have a steering stabelizer.
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07-29-2011, 09:34 AM | #8 |
Not Yet Wild
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa
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Re: Need advice with front end
Thats sounds easy, just need some more heat and a stronger arm. Thought about a stablizer, found one on Ebay for $35.00 new. May give that a try. Thanks for your input.
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07-29-2011, 10:27 AM | #9 |
Gone Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chesterfield, Va
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Re: Need advice with front end
I have to ask, why would you ask for advice on a subject you have little knowledge on and then disregard it?
You can replace the tires again, install a steering stabilizer, chrome wheels, new steering wheel. At the end of the day when all the store bought stuff is installed, your basic steering geometry is still wrong so let us know how it turns out. Do some reading on steering geometry, caster, camber. Akermans principle. |
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