My 1990 G8 16hp Chinese Honda Build and Questions

bordin34 · 07-27-2008, 06:09 PM

I just ordered a 16hp chinese honda from ebay and a 780 clutch from CPP. As of right now I have just two questions.
My first is, does anybody know what the diameter and the pitch of the thread is in the crank where the bolt goes in to hold on the clutch?
My next is, what oil should I use in this engine? I am thinking of using 15w-40 Mobil Delvac 1300 Super CI-4 because it has a great additive package that is high in ZDDP. I have some of this stockpiled for my 73 Charger but could let a quart go to break in this engine and be sure it doesn't wipe a lobe on the cam.

cclingma · 07-28-2008, 05:25 PM

I'm thinkin about this one too as I just pulled the trigger and ordered the 16clone as well. I was planning on just running conventional Valvoline for about five hours and then switching to Mobil Synthetic.

TheNewGuy · 07-28-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cclingma

I'm thinkin about this one too as I just pulled the trigger and ordered the 16clone as well. I was planning on just running conventional Valvoline for about five hours and then switching to Mobil Synthetic.

This is what I did when I installed the 18 vanguard.

bordin34 · 07-28-2008, 09:26 PM

So I guess these little engine don't have enough spring pressure to pose a threat to the cam. In the classic car world, people have been wiping cams a lot in the last couple of years. The EPA made oil makers take out some Zinc dithiophosphates, or ZDDP, because they found that if excessive oil is burned the Cat may not last 100,000 miles. So we have resorted to CI-4 diesel oils or synthetics such as Amsoil or Royal Purple which have more than 1200ppm of ZDDP.
It seems that these Chinese Hondas are becoming more and more popular.

bordin34 · 07-30-2008, 03:47 PM

Well the engine shipped today and should be here within a week. I also bought all the metal and hardware I will need for the swap today as well as oil. I bought a 7/16 fine thread bolt to hold the clutch on which I think won't work but that is the only thread grade 5 came in. I am going to break it in with 15w-40 Motorcraft Diesel oil with Marvel Mystery in the tank and run it after break-in with 5w-40 Synthetic Rotella-T. I also replaced the rear end oil today and pulled the old engine out. right now I am tackling the rust.

EZ-GOnewild · 07-30-2008, 03:57 PM

Sounds like a good plan. Keep us posted and show us some pics!

TheNewGuy · 07-30-2008, 05:39 PM

Yeah, PICS!!

bordin34 · 07-30-2008, 06:28 PM

I have them but they are clustered with my Chryslers at Carlisle pics and I don't feel like uploading them.

bordin34 · 07-30-2008, 06:46 PM

Here they are this is after about 2 hours of scrubbing the caked on dirt off the frame. The throttle cable came today and I just installed it.
In the community I am in, the main transportation for everybody is golf carts. There are about 1000 golf carts.

bordin34 · 07-31-2008, 08:19 PM

The clutch came today so all I am waiting on now is the engine.

07-27-2008, 06:09 PM	#1
bordin34 Getting Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 105	My 1990 G8 16hp Chinese Honda Build and Questions I just ordered a 16hp chinese honda from ebay and a 780 clutch from CPP. As of right now I have just two questions. My first is, does anybody know what the diameter and the pitch of the thread is in the crank where the bolt goes in to hold on the clutch? My next is, what oil should I use in this engine? I am thinking of using 15w-40 Mobil Delvac 1300 Super CI-4 because it has a great additive package that is high in ZDDP. I have some of this stockpiled for my 73 Charger but could let a quart go to break in this engine and be sure it doesn't wipe a lobe on the cam.
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07-28-2008, 05:25 PM	#2
cclingma Getting Wild Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 147	Re: My 1990 G8 16hp Chinese Honda Build and Questions I'm thinkin about this one too as I just pulled the trigger and ordered the 16clone as well. I was planning on just running conventional Valvoline for about five hours and then switching to Mobil Synthetic.
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07-28-2008, 09:26 PM	#4
bordin34 Getting Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 105	Re: My 1990 G8 16hp Chinese Honda Build and Questions So I guess these little engine don't have enough spring pressure to pose a threat to the cam. In the classic car world, people have been wiping cams a lot in the last couple of years. The EPA made oil makers take out some Zinc dithiophosphates, or ZDDP, because they found that if excessive oil is burned the Cat may not last 100,000 miles. So we have resorted to CI-4 diesel oils or synthetics such as Amsoil or Royal Purple which have more than 1200ppm of ZDDP. It seems that these Chinese Hondas are becoming more and more popular.
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07-30-2008, 03:47 PM	#5
bordin34 Getting Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 105	Re: My 1990 G8 16hp Chinese Honda Build and Questions Well the engine shipped today and should be here within a week. I also bought all the metal and hardware I will need for the swap today as well as oil. I bought a 7/16 fine thread bolt to hold the clutch on which I think won't work but that is the only thread grade 5 came in. I am going to break it in with 15w-40 Motorcraft Diesel oil with Marvel Mystery in the tank and run it after break-in with 5w-40 Synthetic Rotella-T. I also replaced the rear end oil today and pulled the old engine out. right now I am tackling the rust.
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bordin34 Getting Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 105	Re: My 1990 G8 16hp Chinese Honda Build and Questions I have them but they are clustered with my Chryslers at Carlisle pics and I don't feel like uploading them.
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07-30-2008, 06:46 PM	#9
bordin34 Getting Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 105	Re: My 1990 G8 16hp Chinese Honda Build and Questions Here they are this is after about 2 hours of scrubbing the caked on dirt off the frame. The throttle cable came today and I just installed it. In the community I am in, the main transportation for everybody is golf carts. There are about 1000 golf carts.
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07-31-2008, 08:19 PM	#10
bordin34 Getting Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 105	Re: My 1990 G8 16hp Chinese Honda Build and Questions The clutch came today so all I am waiting on now is the engine.
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