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Old 05-03-2018, 07:47 PM   #1
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Default How bad is it? Prep for vinyl skin

Ok here goes, after reading the thread on painting by Master, boy do I have a mess. So I started the repairing of my new to me ‘05 G22 waiting on the new motor blah blah blah , I was like hey Ill do the body work. Well I started the process of the Bondo primed it fixed the flaws primed again , you get the picture, right?
So when I was satisfied with what I thought was a great job, I got the skin and started to install it, at first not bad, BUT, here’s the fun stuff when I pulled it back up to remove wrinkles or bubble or to stretch tighter the primer came with it here and there, just enough to make you So after completing cowl:, I started to inquire, found this site and here I am. So my. Question would be other than yes I ripping the cowl off and starting over, do I need to sand back down to the original color,(white) spray with promoter and then prime and then cuss more as I stretch the now newer wrap on. Thanks, and yes I am a newbie, appreciate any help
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:03 PM   #2
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Why are you priming before installing the vinyl?
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Why are you priming before installing the vinyl?
I wanted a uniform look, didn’t want to see darker spots through the vinyl (red spot putty
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Quality wrap vinyl should be 95+ percent opaque. If it is factory pigmented (colored) make sure it has gray adhesive, not clear. If it is custom printed it should be the same. Don't settle for less.

If it were me and I wanted a solid color I would pick 3M #1080. For custom printed or mass produced print like camo, etc. I would specify 3M 180CV3. Both have air release technology that makes it virtually impossible to trap air under it during installation.
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Old 05-04-2018, 07:42 AM   #6
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Quality wrap vinyl should be 95+ percent opaque. If it is factory pigmented (colored) make sure it has gray adhesive, not clear. If it is custom printed it should be the same. Don't settle for less.

If it were me and I wanted a solid color I would pick 3M #1080. For custom printed or mass produced print like camo, etc. I would specify 3M 180CV3. Both have air release technology that makes it virtually impossible to trap air under it during installation.
I purchased an Avery brand wrap, the adhesive is clear, it has the air release on back went with Avery on recommendation and a little research. I guess I should have researched the painting process a lot more prior to my debacle of out come.
So I sanded down the rear cowl last night trying to get back to the original color, to apply promoter, re prime and then apply skin to rear and will have to reorder the replace ment for front
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You need to install on a smooth clean semigloss surface as well as let the paint cure for a couple weeks before install the vinyl wrap. This happens all the time with my racecar guys bc they cant wait. Vinyl doesnt adhere to primers, bondo, or matte finshed paints

Ps i do wraps
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You need to install on a smooth clean semigloss surface as well as let the paint cure for a couple weeks before install the vinyl wrap. This happens all the time with my racecar guys bc they cant wait. Vinyl doesnt adhere to primers, bondo, or matte finshed paints

Ps i do wraps
Well, I can’t either, so i sanded it down used a promoter and shot with a gloss paint, seems to be better and I learned with the left side only to do besides redoing front cowl is heat is my BEST FRIEND
Thanks for all the replies. I will eventually redo the whole thing, as i am not happy with the first go round. But hey its only money....right. Thanks again
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