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11-11-2014, 09:54 AM | #1 |
Not Yet Wild
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My First Build, Im a newbie
Hi Everyone,
Does this make sense or am I not thinking of this correctly? 2008 Club Car Precedent IQ PQ Bandit motor = 25% increase in torque/speed 18” stock tires swapped to 23” tires = 27.5% decrease in torque Stock 275 AMP to DCX500IQ Controller w/ = 30%+ Increase in Torque 2 Gauge Wires and Solenoid 12.4 Gears swapped to 8:1 Gears = 33% Decrease in Torque Net loss in Torque 5.5% (not too Bad) Is this setup feasible? I am trying to create a 30-33 MPH four passenger on-road setup. I live in Florida so climbing hills is not an issue but having enough torque to carry passengers from a stop sign to 30 MPH within a reasonable amount of time is. Will I be pushing the electronics to much with this? Oh and I already know about the brake upgrade Thanks everyone. |
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11-11-2014, 09:28 PM | #2 |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Katy, Tx
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Re: My First Build, Im a newbie
Welcome to BGW!
I will get ya btt so others will chime in. What i have read is you dont mix hi speed motor with high speed gears. BUT out if 102,000 members i bet someone has. Lets see if they can help you on your desires. |
11-12-2014, 08:00 AM | #3 |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sunset Bay, TN
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Re: My First Build, Im a newbie
Gears would be the last thing I would think about changing out....
Strong Battery Pack 2 Gauge Cables 400/1000 Amp Solenoid Plum Quick Motor 500 Amp Controller Will get you a cart doing every bit of 30 MPH and then some..... High Speed Gears cost a lot of torque and "CAN" put your motor under a lot of strain and can cause it to burn out! |
11-12-2014, 10:43 AM | #4 |
Not Yet Wild
Join Date: Nov 2014
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Re: My First Build, Im a newbie
Thanks Epb & Teecro,
I guess that’s why I can’t find much info about people running large tires with speed gears. Hey Teecro, I saw that the bottom of your post says that you are running the Executioner in an Excel cart. Plum Quick’s website says the Executioner is for 1996-2001 Club Cars. Is that not Correct? |
11-12-2014, 11:33 AM | #5 |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Central FL
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Re: My First Build, Im a newbie
Welcome! Is your cart a stretched limo or are you talking about a rear seat to get your 4 passengers?
Since no one has mentioned it yet, l'll chime in with another option; An imaginative 2 speed axle. In low gear it is 1/2 speed but boar loads of torque to get you going, in high gear it is about 5 mph faster than stock. It also has sychros so you can shift it on the fly at speed (ie: start in low to get you going and when it tops out switch to high, no need to stop between shifts). This will minimize the load on the motor from a dead stop and increase your top speed. One thing to remember is adult people weigh allot. Your cart fully loaded could easily weigh around 600-700lbs heavier than a normal cart, even more if its a limo. So your naturally going to be putting things under heavier loads just getting going. A good upgraded series motor makes a great workhorse for these heavy loads. I would eventually call different motor manufacturers and tell them what you want to do and see what they recommend. They likely have already witnessed every possible combination. Please report back on your progress and findings! |
11-12-2014, 10:06 PM | #6 |
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Location: Golf Car Capital of The World... Augusta, Georgia
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Re: My First Build, Im a newbie
I don't like high speed gears. I don't see the point in using 6:1 gears vs the factory 12:1 gears (twice the speed) if Plum Quick makes a motor that is capable of more than twice the RPM of the factory motor, achieving the same result without a loss of torque.
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11-13-2014, 08:38 AM | #7 |
Not Yet Wild
Join Date: Nov 2014
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Re: My First Build, Im a newbie
Thank Unclejerm & TahoeDawg, It’s not a Limo just an added rear seat. I hear ya about the weight, that’s why I wanted to ask questions here first. Looks like I will be calling PQ. That two speed rear axle does sound pretty cool though
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11-13-2014, 10:46 AM | #8 |
Gone Wild
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Rio Verde, Az
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Re: My First Build, Im a newbie
Higher RPM motors tend to have less torque.
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11-13-2014, 10:57 AM | #9 |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Central FL
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Since you haven't bought anything yet, have you considered joining the high voltage club? That's another option that meets your speed/TQ needs.
...Although you would need either a special high voltage charger or two regular chargers. There's a whole section in this forum dedicated to that group discussing show tos/pros/cons :D |
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