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11-28-2014, 04:42 PM | #1 |
Gone Wild
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Increasing the speed of a Series Motor
Other than high speed gears or a performance motor the quick way to increase speed is to fit a 36v motor to the 48v cart.(if you can find one). I came across the following on the web quote "To increase speed of the motor decrease the field current by placing a small resistance in parallel to the winding and armature. The decrease in current will result in lowering of magnetic flux and counter EMF, which further hastens the motor speed" Any one tried this or have any ideas??
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11-28-2014, 05:26 PM | #2 |
Gone Wild
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Re: Increasing the speed of a Series Motor
That will also decrease torque proportionally.
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11-28-2014, 06:37 PM | #3 |
Gone Wild
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Re: Increasing the speed of a Series Motor
What you described is called "Field Weakening", the trick is not to allow it if the motor is under severe torque condition as it would not be able to develop much torque and the current thru the motor would be very large.
The worst time would be trying to start the cart and the Weakening Solenoid being engaged. You can search the site for ideas, but I thought of the following (picture attached). When You push the button, the charger relay engages (at full 48v from pedal switch), the relay then "latches on" using a diode from the "Cold Side" of the Relay Normally Open contact. The cool thing about these relays is that once engaged, they will hold the contacts all the way to under 10v coil voltage. They also use 20ma at +48v coil voltage, so it is ideal for using LEDs. You can have a few Green Leds (3v drop each) in series that will only be ON if the Overdrive solenoid is engaged. If You remove the foot from the pedal, the relay and By-Pass Solenoid go off so You don't have to worry about starting the cart with the By-Pass relay ON. There is also nothing that would prevent the motor to spin itself to self-destruction if You keep accelerating with Field Weakening ON. |
11-29-2014, 04:37 PM | #4 |
Gone Wild
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Re: Increasing the speed of a Series Motor
Tks for info Sergio, I suppose if you want some speed on the flat its ok but on hills when you need torque its a no no. Sounds like a solution for Florida
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11-29-2014, 06:18 PM | #5 |
Gone Wild
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Re: Increasing the speed of a Series Motor
Absolutely, but I would be curios if anyone in a flat area has tried it, how much speed increase would you get...
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11-29-2014, 06:52 PM | #6 |
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
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Re: Increasing the speed of a Series Motor
Isnt one old series motor trick "field shorting?" Once the car is up to full speed, the field terminals are shorted together and speed was said to roughly double, though torque was lost just the same. IIRC there used to be eBay kits and such for it, but it was kind of looked at as hackery and a bad idea. Maybe someone who has tried it can chime in??
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11-29-2014, 07:17 PM | #7 |
Gone Wild
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Re: Increasing the speed of a Series Motor
I agree is definitely a bad idea if You use just a toggle switch, too easy to forget it on...
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11-29-2014, 07:36 PM | #8 |
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Re: Increasing the speed of a Series Motor
I agree, your idea would be much safer, too bad it's too hilly around here to try it.
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08-10-2015, 04:35 PM | #9 |
Gone Wild
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Re: Increasing the speed of a Series Motor
Is this using the solenoid that is already installed in the cart or does it require a new separate solenoid?
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08-10-2015, 04:51 PM | #10 |
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Re: Increasing the speed of a Series Motor
Requires a separate solenoid. It does work, but speeds won't double. I tested it on an old cart a while back and gained a few MPH, but the gain isn't worth the time setting up the system and the damage you could easily do to your motor.
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