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Unread 07-23-2015, 12:19 PM   #61
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So, here's the deal. I'm not disagreeing with anyone's statement regarding mixing new and old batteries, or whether or not desulfators work or not. There is however, quite a bit of evidence or comments in support of the electronic desulfators. All I know is that my wife's five plus year old batteries are showing 100% charges now, minus the one bad battery that I had to replace. I have not checked the status of the new battery yet, as we have only had it a couple of weeks. I do know that when I moved my wife's golf cart out of the garage today, the analogue meter showed a higher charge than I have seen on her cart in a long time. And it has not been charged since yesterday. As a matter of fact, it now shows as high as mine and I have one year old batteries. Regardless of whether or not adding just one new battery will have a negative effect on the new battery, we will see. I don't dispute what some of you say in that regards. But, I do believe that the little electronic desulfator may have had a positive effect on the old batteries. I mean, they are over five years old and showing a full charge. Of course, I am not naive enough to believe that they are as STRONG as new batteries, but she claims that the cart is a bit more "spirited."
I think that I am going to give this little experiment a bit more time and see if I can make these old batteries hang in there a little longer. I do realize that I may be damaging a perfectly good and new battery, but what they heck, right?
No, I do not plan to use any of that liquid or powder battery stuff.
Stay tuned. Anyone want to set up a pool to see how long this will go on before crashing and burning? A month, two, three, a year?
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Unread 08-06-2015, 03:12 PM   #62
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I needed to pull my wife's golf cart out of the garage so that I could check her batteries and top them off with some distilled water. I use a turkey baster. All the batteries had water covering the plates but I like to fill them up to the bottom of the fill tube. Probably not a good thing to do, but the water seems to last longer that way, between filling. I had plenty of sunshine so I did notice that the plates were really/really clean. Remember, I had been using an electronic desulfator. I compared them with the one fairly new battery that I had recently installed as a replacement for a bad battery in the pack. Remember, this battery pack is over five years old and had been abused. Sometimes the water was below the plates when checked. I could hardly tell the difference in the plate condition of the new battery with the old batteries. They look good. After filling the water and replacing the caps, I decided to do a digital voltage check on the batteries and found the results interesting. All the five old batteries showed 8.5 volts and the new one 8.6 volts. Before anyone jumps me about replacing all the batteries at the same time, I had planned on doing that but needed to get her back on the road fast. I was going to have to wait until the middle of the next month before I could afford to buy the rest of the batteries. Fixed income, budget thing. Anyway, I put it off and the decided to see if the desulfator would extend the life of this battery pack. If I replaced the whole battery pack, then I wouldn't know if this desulfator worked. Don't worry, I will pass it on if these batteries cause the new battery to fail by putting the strain on it. I'm not arguing with anyone's experience. Just want to see if this desulfator changes that equation. Another factor to consider when doing something as unorthodox (stupid?) as this, is the factor of breaking in the new battery while installed with the old. Kind of hard to do. My wife uses her golf cart daily. She drives it to the pool for water aerobics every morning, sometime to the store afterward, comes home and charges it, and then a couple of days a week, she then goes a couple of miles or so to play mahjong or cards. We always charge it when she returns. Lately, I have hardly used my cart and have been keeping it on the Sav-a-battery maintainer. I've been working on the house, so I haven't taken the time to work on the cart or participate in any recreation.
I don't mind any criticism about what I am doing. Feel free to comment on my level of intelligence. I'm old enough to take it......and I have a CCW...
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Unread 08-06-2015, 03:19 PM   #63
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Guess you need to test them, have you tested each cell with a temperature compensated hydrometer (they are cheap even the batter glass ones)?

Run the cart, see how far you can go and how long you can drive it before it gets to 50% STC, that will be the true tell tell!
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Unread 08-06-2015, 03:46 PM   #64
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Nope, I haven't tested the batteries that way yet. I do have one of those eyedropper hydrometer thingies. Just figured I try to break the new battery in with the old before I did any testing. Guess, it's about time to check. We have the analogue type charge meters on the dash, and I have purchased the digital ones, just haven't installed them yet. I do know that my wife's meter shows the same as mine and she still shows a charge in the white when she returns home every day. That in itself is pretty decent.

But, I will check it like you said and see how it reads. I don't expect it to read like a new battery pack, but I am pleasantly surprised at the results I am getting so far. I know she won't get the distance on hers that she would with a new pack.
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Do the hydrometer test, check each cell, that will tell you a lot about their condition.
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Any recent activity on this subject?
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Unread 03-21-2016, 10:44 PM   #67
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I still use mine but have a bad battery that won't take a charge. I'm replacing them this week and will be using mine from the get go. Hopefully it will extend the life of my pack.
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Unread 03-27-2016, 10:18 PM   #68
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So in your opinion (the guys that have desulfators and or maintainers) which one is the better option?
Was considering buying the $75 save a battery maintainer... My batteries are are only 3 years old, water level has been maintained always and it's always on the charger when I'm not on it, but the batteries already don't last anywhere near as long as when they were new. Was hoping to get the full 5 years out of these things at least, never thought I'd have to buy extra gear to do it...
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So in your opinion (the guys that have desulfators and or maintainers) which one is the better option?
Was considering buying the $75 save a battery maintainer... My batteries are are only 3 years old, water level has been maintained always and it's always on the charger when I'm not on it, but the batteries already don't last anywhere near as long as when they were new. Was hoping to get the full 5 years out of these things at least, never thought I'd have to buy extra gear to do it...
In my opinion the best option is to do all that is possible to prevent sulfating in the first place. While sulfating will eventually take out almost any battery no matter how well cared for the best thing to do is work pro-actively to keep it at bay. Keep your batteries charged as much as practical and don't waste time getting them back on the charger once they have been used. Keeping them on a FLOAT charger that holds the batteries above 100 % SOC is in my opinion the best medicine.
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In my opinion the best option is to do all that is possible to prevent sulfating in the first place. While sulfating will eventually take out almost any battery no matter how well cared for the best thing to do is work pro-actively to keep it at bay. Keep your batteries charged as much as practical and don't waste time getting them back on the charger once they have been used. Keeping them on a FLOAT charger that holds the batteries above 100 % SOC is in my opinion the best medicine.
Is the maintainer device a float charger? Or do you have a favorite you could recommend?
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