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Unread 04-07-2015, 10:59 PM   #1
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upgraded to alltrax 400dcx
I can only get 70% throttle on the club car 5k-0 setting!!!
I called alltrax and he gave me three files to try: clubcar2.hex, clubcar3.hex, and club car3a.hex
still only 70%
he then told me to try the ezgoITS setting as a last resort
I then got 100% throttle

1. will this damage my cart or controller on the ezgo setting?
2. what else can I try to get 100% on the club car setting?
3. will the speed magnet help any with an after market controller?

my settings :
high petal disable yes
plug brake no
turbo yes
1/2 speed reverse yes

max output 100
under voltage 30
over voltage 60
throttle up 3
throttle down 15
brake current 50
top speed 100

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Unread 04-07-2015, 11:19 PM   #2
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U from lake Charles area?
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Unread 04-07-2015, 11:25 PM   #3
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U from lake Charles area?
About 45 min from lc
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How is the throttle on that ITS setting? Smooth? controllable start to wide open?
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How is the throttle on that ITS setting? Smooth? controllable start to wide open?
was a bit to much power off the start (would jerk your head back) when I had the throttle up on 5, so I set it on 3 and now it's alot better!!!
Seems like I have twice the speed and power on the ITS setting, just don't want to damage anything!!!
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was a bit to much power off the start (would jerk your head back) when I had the throttle up on 5, so I set it on 3 and now it's alot better!!!
Seems like I have twice the speed and power on the ITS setting, just don't want to damage anything!!!
I don't think you need to worry about that. Short of damage from hard starts but, you say you de-tuned it to smooth take offs... pretty interesting. I had not tried that... ITS is a voltage signal.
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I don't think you need to worry about that. Short of damage from hard starts but, you say you de-tuned it to smooth take offs... pretty interesting. I had not tried that... ITS is a voltage signal.
Yes take off is a lot smoother on 3 rather than 5, I might even go lower for the wife and kids sake, gonna mess with the settings some more in the next few days
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Having the throttle up rate set too high may allow the motor to draw more amps than it can turn into torque. That will damage the motor over time due to heat.

I don't think that is your problem.

Setting the throttle up rate too low may be masking the fact that you have poor throttle resolution.

If Your throttle jumps from 0-30%, setting the throttle up rate low will force the controller to deliver that increase over a longer period of time, that will translate into a smoother acceleration.

The problem is you either have 0% or 30%, nothing in between.

It appears that the DS pedal group was prone to wear on the base of the accelerator pedal, this is the first thread I remember reading about the issue:

Fix 4 Slow Clubcars with MCORs

There have been other threads were folks used plex tubing or metal tubing, but I think the zip tie would be the quickest and easiest way to test if that is your issue with the 5kΩ-0 club car setting.

If that fixes the problem, you can further investigate a more durable solution.
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Having the throttle up rate set too high may allow the motor to draw more amps than it can turn into torque. That will damage the motor over time due to heat.

I don't think that is your problem.

Setting the throttle up rate too low may be masking the fact that you have poor throttle resolution.

If Your throttle jumps from 0-30%, setting the throttle up rate low will force the controller to deliver that increase over a longer period of time, that will translate into a smoother acceleration.

The problem is you either have 0% or 30%, nothing in between.

It appears that the DS pedal group was prone to wear on the base of the accelerator pedal, this is the first thread I remember reading about the issue:

Fix 4 Slow Clubcars with MCORs

There have been other threads were folks used plex tubing or metal tubing, but I think the zip tie would be the quickest and easiest way to test if that is your issue with the 5kΩ-0 club car setting.

If that fixes the problem, you can further investigate a more durable solution.
Thanks!!!
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Unread 04-08-2015, 11:52 AM   #10
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Will the speed magnet do anything if I have an aftermarket controller???
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