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Unread 04-21-2015, 02:05 AM   #1
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Default 48v DC CarryAll vs. 72v AC Cushman/EZGO

I'm comparing the new Club Car CarryAll 500 with a Cushman Hauler Pro 72v AC.

I was leaning toward the Cushman because I thought it would have the most HP, torque, weight and towing capacities - based on the power package.

I also liked the Cushman/EZGO utility carts because they offer an optional limited slip differential - which would help in my conditions greatly.

However, the CarryAll can carry 800lbs, as opposed to 600lbs. And the towing capacities are similar.

1) So what gives? Is all I get with the 72v AC is more range - which I don't need? Shouldn't there also be more HP and torque, so maybe more capacities?
2) How does the rear traction work on these CarryAlls? I really need maximum rear traction - so would the lack of a limited slip differential be a deal breaker?
(and yes, I am really set on electric )
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Unread 04-21-2015, 07:50 AM   #2
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Default Re: 48v DC CarryAll vs. 72v AC Cushman/EZGO

Hello,, for me,, there's no doubt,, i go with the cushman haulerpro.. The three major reasons why i go with it,, 1-the 72 volt ac drive 2- limited slip differential 3-the payload capacity is not 600 lbs but 1000lbs..... 400lbs better than the carryall.
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Unread 04-21-2015, 08:08 AM   #3
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Sorry it's not 400 but 200lbs better than carryall
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Default Re: 48v DC CarryAll vs. 72v AC Cushman/EZGO

Thanks JD - but here are the full correct figures - and that is what I don't understand - why the CarryAll carries much more weight, despite the power differences.

In this format CarryAll/Cushman - taken from their brochures - attached below.
Bed load capacity 800lbs/600lbs
Vehicle load capacity 1500lbs/1000lbs
Towing capacity 1200lbs/1262lbs

So what good is the extra power, except for range? The CarryAll carries 33% more weight.

And I am worried that parts may be cheaper and more available on-line for the CarryAll.

However, it's the limited slip dif. in the Cushman that I think tilts the scales for me. I'm not sure, but my research indicates that EZGO (Textron) has (or at least applied for) a patent on the limited slip concept in electric carts. It is an interesting issue because I just became aware that CarryAll introduced (days ago) the limited slip option in its CarryAlls - but in gas only.
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Default Re: 48v DC CarryAll vs. 72v AC Cushman/EZGO

Yep i don't know why we don't find the same info.. maybe you should take a look at the hauler pro 1200x it's the lifted version if you plan to use it off road....
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Yep i don't know why we don't find the same info.. maybe you should take a look at the hauler pro 1200x it's the lifted version if you plan to use it off road....
Problem is the 1200x is only 48 volts DC - and half the towing capacity.

Yep, it's a pain when the manufacturers don't get the specs correct and consistent.

It just didn't make sense to me as to why put a 72v AC power train in a vehicle, when a competitor can make a 48v DC cart with 50% more weight capacity, and the same towing capacity.

If the only advantage is range - I can see it. But if that the only advantage, it doesn't make sense to me?
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Problem is the 1200x is only 48 volts DC - and half the towing capacity.

Yep, it's a pain when the manufacturers don't get the specs correct and consistent.

It just didn't make sense to me as to why put a 72v AC power train in a vehicle, when a competitor can make a 48v DC cart with 50% more weight capacity, and the same towing capacity.

If the only advantage is range - I can see it. But if that the only advantage, it doesn't make sense to me?
tottaly agree with you it's hard to find the "real" spec of these cart.. Are you going to buy it use or new... In this situation price may help you to decide....
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tottaly agree with you it's hard to find the "real" spec of these cart.. Are you going to buy it use or new... In this situation price may help you to decide....
Thanks for keeping up the conversation.

I have a unique situation - living on an isolated island in Hawaii. Getting a cart here is expensive (used or new = same price). And there is no service/parts at all. I would have to do it all.

So I was going to buy new, and count on a few (hopefully many) years of trouble free service - since I will maintain it meticulously. Then I could sell it, since these vehicles are impossible to find used here in any decent shape, and buy new again.

I think in the long run, that would save me money and headaches, since I don't have a garage full of fancy tools, and I am only a "car guy" when I have to be. :) But only if I get the "right" vehicle.
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Default Re: 48v DC CarryAll vs. 72v AC Cushman/EZGO

Well it's hard to say,, because a breakdown can happen on any cart at any time... Maybe you should go with the carryall i tell you that because it's a dc drive (i think) it's cheaper to repair if it broke than AC system.... I don't know if it's the same controller in the haulerpro but an AC controller for my 48v RXV is around 1000$ in my area.. I'm in Montreal QC maybe it's going to be higher in hawaï......
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Default Re: 48v DC CarryAll vs. 72v AC Cushman/EZGO

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Well it's hard to say,, because a breakdown can happen on any cart at any time... Maybe you should go with the carryall i tell you that because it's a dc drive (i think) it's cheaper to repair if it broke than AC system.... I don't know if it's the same controller in the haulerpro but an AC controller for my 48v RXV is around 1000$ in my area.. I'm in Montreal QC maybe it's going to be higher in hawaï......
Thanks again JD,

These are things I did not know, and why I am asking here. Any advice such as this is greatly appreciated.
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