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Unread 05-08-2015, 08:43 PM   #1
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Default 93 CC 36v 'always on'

Hi -- I have a 93 V-glide 36v CC that still runs pretty good - except now, when ever the cart is engaged in Forward, it starts to move very slow, as if the accelerator pedal was pushed a bit. If the parking brake is engaged, and it's left in Forward, the coils get very hot. The same happens for Reverse. As well, this all happens even with the the key off (or no key at all). A couple years ago I replaced the F/N/R mechanism and solenoid after a fire, so I'm guessing those parts are good! (That story can be found here: 93 CC 36v electrical fire, problems now )

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Unread 05-08-2015, 10:28 PM   #2
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Default Re: 93 CC 36v 'always on'

1 or 2 issues here. Either your V-glide arm isn't returning down far enough to hit the arm on the microswitch and "turn off" you cart or the microswitch is broken and always on. Very possibly both.

The key should cut power though, my guess is there is something miswired also.

Here's the diagram for your cart, I would start by confirming that everything is wired correctly.

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Unread 05-08-2015, 11:44 PM   #3
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Stan is correct you have 2 problems
power on all the time = the key switch is bad
moving while no gas pedal push / hot coils = v-glide not adjusted right




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Unread 05-09-2015, 09:12 AM   #4
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OK, thanks you guys for this. I will check all these issues. The wiring diagram is very helpful. I won't be back at my cart till next weekend, but I will keep you posted. Thanks!!

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Hi -- I have a 93 V-glide 36v CC that still runs pretty good - except now, when ever the cart is engaged in Forward, it starts to move very slow, as if the accelerator pedal was pushed a bit. If the parking brake is engaged, and it's left in Forward, the coils get very hot. The same happens for Reverse. As well, this all happens even with the the key off (or no key at all). A couple years ago I replaced the F/N/R mechanism and solenoid after a fire, so I'm guessing those parts are good! (That story can be found here: 93 CC 36v electrical fire, problems now )

Thanks in advance for any help.

Greg
Did You guys catch that part?

The most likely problem is a "welded" solenoid.

Make sure the "limit switch" in the FNR is working properly and not by-passed.

Also as mentioned, make sure the pedal is returning all the way.

Both of those could cause arc on the solenoid contacts when it closes, and that can weld the contacts.

Edit: Missed where 93yellowclubcar mentioned to make sure the wiring is correct, but wow, has it been wrong for 2 years?
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Unread 05-15-2015, 06:16 PM   #6
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hi guys -- I removed the key switch (removed the wires) and the problem still exists, so I'm guessing that's not it. Before I start pulling batteries out to get to the vglide, is there any way to check or test the solenoid first? Preferably without having to remove it? Are there certain voltages I can check for, referring to the wiring diagram 93yellowclubcar attached? Thanks very much!!

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Unread 05-15-2015, 07:23 PM   #7
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Disconnect the cables from the pack neg. and pos.

With the system dead there should be no continuity between the large posts of the solenoid.

You can check the function of micro switch in the V-glide with the meter at the ends of the small gauge black and green wires at the back of the charger port and the small post of the solenoid while operating the go pedal.


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Unread 05-15-2015, 08:20 PM   #8
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solenoid test
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Disconnect the negative & positive battery cables from the battery pack. remove all wires from solenoid (mark them for reinstall )
test 1
Connect an volt meter, set on continuity, place on the two large terminal studs. The meter should indicate no continuity, Replace the solenoid if continuity is present.
test 2
Using jumper wires attach from main positive and main negative of battery pack to the two small solenoid studs, polarity is not important. You should hear a click as the solenoid engages, and the meter should indicate continuity on the two large terminals. Replace the solenoid if continuity is not present.
if solenoid clicks rapidly solenoid is bad
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Unread 05-16-2015, 12:16 PM   #9
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Default Re: 93 CC 36v 'always on'

Thanks for all this, you guys are very helpful!

I removed the solenoid connections and there is continuity across the large posts, so I guess that is my problem. I replaced the solenoid about 4 years ago after an electrical fire, not sure why it would go on me. I will this opportunity to examine the vglide mechanism as described above as well. There is also continuity across the small solenoid posts, not sure if that matters. But noting across large / small posts.

Thanks, I will keep you posted when I put in the new solenoid.

Greg

PS -- I did not try the jumper cable test, I had removed 2 batteries to get at the solenoid so my pack was all disassembled.
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Unread 05-16-2015, 12:41 PM   #10
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there is continuity across the large posts,
yep that's a bad solenoid ... i've seen solenoids last years and go in weeks
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