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Unread 06-08-2015, 04:20 PM   #1
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Finally got my 99 up and running. It is slow in the bottom end at take off. Once it gets going it'll run 14ish? ? Any ideas?? Thinking about a PQ motor upgrade and possibly Mcor conversion.

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Unread 06-08-2015, 05:00 PM   #2
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Unlike series carts, my experience is that the older Regen 1 & 2 carts seem to pause-on-mashing-pedal before accelerating from a standing start. YOUR PRIOR POST confirms what you are seeing as normal-stock performance for Regen 2.

mrgolf also reported on one of your threads "For what it's worth. The bandit motor on regen 2 cart with speed sensor unhooked will get you 17-20 mph. Speed sensor will hold you back to around 15 mph if it's hooked up. That's what it did on my 99 regen 2"

OK - here's a combo that wasn't brought up.....

Its already been mentioned that speed or performance beyond what is described for Regen 2 will require changing the drive system to something else - BUT - if your use is primarily running on smooth surfaces & flat ground - the combo of a PQ motor AND (since the motor would be off for a while) - installing higher speed (8:1 RATIO) gears will certainly get you cruising on paved surfaces!

But if your running on hilly/muddy or sandy/wet terrain, the high speed gearing could be too big a burden on torque. People are generally hesitant to mention gears, because gearing is definitely not compatible with off-road use.
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Unread 06-08-2015, 06:06 PM   #3
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I agree with Joesam. It sounds like normal operation for a Regen cart. They're simply not that fast. The MCOR conversion kit would smooth out the throttle but it's not gonna give you any more speed.
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Unread 06-08-2015, 07:45 PM   #4
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Never installed something like gears before. Built this cart from the ground up and feel comfortable working with the electric side of it. Any input or direction at changing the gears?

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Unread 06-09-2015, 10:34 AM   #5
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Since your asking more about gears, I assume your generally running on the street or cart paths? Yes??

I did find THIS THREAD - which talks about gear install.

I seem to recall you'll need a hydraulic press to install them - which is why most people take the gears to a shop to press one of the gears on. I have a friend with 6:1 gears on his older Yamaha Electric G19e (installed by a cart shop). In my opinion, 6:1 to TOO MUCH - his torque is poor and he has to take-a-run to climb even smaller hills on the golf course. Plus he tends to drive too fast on the course, just to overcome the torque issue. His model Yamaha is also known for having a fairly weak motor compared to a CC. He can do 30 mph but has sacrificed too much torque - Bad combination.

If I were doing gears on my Regen, here's what I would do:

1) Use only 8:1 gears
2) Replace all cables with *new* high quality 4 ga. (mine are at least 6 yrs old, and could use refreshing)
3) If rebuilding motor with PQ - have them "customize" the rebuild to favor torque vs speed - it'll still spin faster than a stock motor, but will have some good grunt. They can customize motor rebuilds if you phone them and explain (as can other cart motor rebuilders).

If you did the above, I believe you would cruise at about 22-24mph (conservative estimate) and have sufficient torque to generally keep up with the newer model carts on speed code 5 etc.
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Since your asking more about gears, I assume your generally running on the street or cart paths? Yes??

I did find THIS THREAD - which talks about gear install.

I seem to recall you'll need a hydraulic press to install them - which is why most people take the gears to a shop to press one of the gears on. I have a friend with 6:1 gears on his older Yamaha Electric G19e (installed by a cart shop). In my opinion, 6:1 to TOO MUCH - his torque is poor and he has to take-a-run to climb even smaller hills on the golf course. Plus he tends to drive too fast on the course, just to overcome the torque issue. His model Yamaha is also known for having a fairly weak motor compared to a CC. He can do 30 mph but has sacrificed too much torque - Bad combination.

If I were doing gears on my Regen, here's what I would do:

1) Use only 8:1 gears
2) Replace all cables with *new* high quality 4 ga. (mine are at least 6 yrs old, and could use refreshing)
3) If rebuilding motor with PQ - have them "customize" the rebuild to favor torque vs speed - it'll still spin faster than a stock motor, but will have some good grunt. They can customize motor rebuilds if you phone them and explain (as can other cart motor rebuilders).

If you did the above, I believe you would cruise at about 22-24mph (conservative estimate) and have sufficient torque to generally keep up with the newer model carts on speed code 5 etc.
Yes. This cart is primarily used around town on streets. Occasionally through a yard but no real off road terrain.

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Unread 06-09-2015, 06:07 PM   #7
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OK - if you do plan to pursue gears; you'll need to be 100% certain which rear end - I "think" Club Car switched from & between Graziano and Kawasaki rear ends in their electric carts ALMOST EXACTLY between mid '96 and end '98 - so you'll need to be dead certain which you have. One set apparently just needs a gear puller to install - not sure of the other.

Anticipating your question - apparently THIS is supposedly what a 1991 Kawasaki transaxle looks like (this is NOT my area of expertise, though).
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