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Unread 07-05-2015, 11:12 AM   #1
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I'm having an issue with my 2011 club car where the on off key basically isn't working as the car will operate weather the key is on or off. But shortly after driving in the off position the car will eventually stop. After investigating and pulling the dash down I see there are two wire harnesses that appear not to be used. Does anyone know what these are used for?
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Unread 07-05-2015, 11:16 AM   #2
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The one on the left is for a horn/turn signals and the one on the right is for Club Car's Visage GPS Golf Course system. Neither of which can cause your issue. I'd be leaning towards a bad solenoid switch. It sounds like it may be stuck in the closed position. Do you hear it click when you go?
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If you think that the key switch is at fault just disconnect it altogether and use a jumper wire in its place as all the key switch is a simple SPST ON/OFF switch.... Disconnected = No Run & Connected = Run
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light harness

i would check your solenoid
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If you think that the key switch is at fault just disconnect it altogether and use a jumper wire in its place as all the key switch is a simple SPST ON/OFF switch.... Disconnected = No Run & Connected = Run
Thank you everyone for such a quick response. I just bought this cart Friday and I didn't realize the solenoid would be a part of that circuit. I do not hear any click like a typical solenoid would do. Quick question when you replaced your motor and controller to get your club car up to 33mph what kind of run time do you have and did you have to replace the stock cables? Mikes draggin along at 15 it needs a boost.
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Mikes draggin along at 15 it needs a boost.
mike ?

stock ds cart goes 15mph
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Thank you everyone for such a quick response. I just bought this cart Friday and I didn't realize the solenoid would be a part of that circuit. I do not hear any click like a typical solenoid would do. Quick question when you replaced your motor and controller to get your club car up to 33mph what kind of run time do you have and did you have to replace the stock cables? Mikes draggin along at 15 it needs a boost.
The previous posts are correct, the plug on the left is what would hook into the premium upgrade with turn signals, headlight switch, horn and hazard lights. It is not related to your ignition circuit as it is not connected to it in anyway. The aftermarket light harness is it's on independent circuit. If, when you turn the key on, you do not hear the solenoid "click" when you press the gas then it is likely the problem. It could be welded or there could be other issues with it. Replacement is relatively easy. Assuming you have the 6x8 battery setup, you can remove the middle two batteries and then remove the single torx on top of the silver controller panel box. It then leans toward the front and you'll see the solenoid on the drivers side. It is just slide clipped into place. There are 4 connections. Two main 4 gauge wires (or 6ga) and two smaller wires on the front. You can just buy a new solenoid and put it on in the place of the old one. The longest part is removing the batteries. Make sure all wires go back into the same place as they were removed. Most solenoids available today are slightly larger than the stock one in size and can be difficult to get slid into place but you can do it.

Also, assuming your's is the IQ and not an Excel cart you can do the high speed magnet which should put you at 20 mph on stock tires, 22-24 on 23" mud tires. They are inexpensive and easy to install.
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A stuck solenoid by itself will not allow an IQ/Excel cart to operate without the key switch ON.

You still need the +48v volt signal from the key switch to activate the controller logic as well as the +48v to the MCOR (also provided by the key switch) to tell the controller the pedal has been pressed.

What you describe, the short time this event is able to occur, is more in line with a capacitor holding voltage at the "cold" side of the key switch.

If you have a 48v->12v converter without a low current trigger wire that is being powered by the key switch, that converter will keep a +48v voltage after the key switch is turned OFF until its internal capacitors are discharged.

That would also wear the key switch as most converters cause a current spike when first powered and the capacitors are discharged.
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Thank you everyone for such a quick response. I just bought this cart Friday and I didn't realize the solenoid would be a part of that circuit. I do not hear any click like a typical solenoid would do. Quick question when you replaced your motor and controller to get your club car up to 33mph what kind of run time do you have and did you have to replace the stock cables? Mikes draggin along at 15 it needs a boost.
Best thing for you to do is to first post your carts serial number here so that we can determine if it is an Excel cart or not as they cost more money to get their speed up.... An Excel cart serial number likely starts with either PH or PD; look for the number by your passenger cup holder area. If it is an Excel cart the cheap speed magnet will not work for you.... At 15 MPH least it sounds like you got speed code 3 in there. One of your best bets is going to then pony up for a Bandit motor rebuild from Plum Quik and a set of # 4 cables in place of the small # 6 cables in there now. This will get you up into the mid 20's with a nice boost in torque for less than 350.00 dollars.

It sounds to me like Sergio is likely spot on to your issue if it is not the key switch itself... <<< That dure is real smart here!
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Best thing for you to do is to first post your carts serial number here so that we can determine if it is an Excel cart or not as they cost more money to get their speed up.... An Excel cart serial number likely starts with either PH or PD; look for the number by your passenger cup holder area. If it is an Excel cart the cheap speed magnet will not work for you.... At 15 MPH least it sounds like you got speed code 3 in there. One of your best bets is going to then pony up for a Bandit motor rebuild from Plum Quik and a set of # 4 cables in place of the small # 6 cables in there now. This will get you up into the mid 20's with a nice boost in torque for less than 350.00 dollars.

It sounds to me like Sergio is likely spot on to your issue if it is not the key switch itself... <<< That dure is real smart here!

Thanks so much! Yes I ended up finding the plum quick website and may take the plunge and get the assassin this way best bet is 40, but realistically 33-35 should be a safe bet. I'm learning with that I'm going to need to upgrade the wires to #2 gauge and get a new controller, solenoid, and fwd rev switch.

I'm posting the photo with the serial number of the cart. I just found the list it appears my model is the PH or precedent i2 excel? Is this good, bad or indifferent?

The motor also does have the plastic cap on the end with the two bolts.
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