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Unread 07-22-2016, 09:46 PM   #1
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Question help with turn signal wire problems

First off, I do not have a light "kit". I have LED lights I bought off amazon, a lighted switch for the headlights, and a on/off/on switch for the turn signals. I have an old electronic flasher module that is about 1.25 inches in diameter, and about an inch tall with two poles at the bottom. I also have wire. Here is what I did:

Step 1: mount both headlights, tie them in parallel, switch on the positive side, inline fuse before the switch, ground on the switch (for it to light) comes back to NEG. This all works fine. flip switch, headlights come on, switch is lit.

Step 2: mounted the tail lights. They are 1" by 4" LED with three wires out. NEG, LOW and HIGH. If I manually touch the NEG to a NEG and LOW or HIGH to a POS (12V away) They work. Low is dim, HIGH is bright. Tied the NEG to the NEG from the headlights, tied the LOW to the POS after the switch (so it is basically in parallel with the headlights.

At this point, I flip the switch, the headlights turn on, the switch lights up, and the DIM tail lights come on. ALL IS GOOD.

Step 3: Turn signals. I take a wire from POS after the fuse, but before the switch, and run it over to the flasher unit, then to the input of the on/off/on switch. I take one side of the switch to each of the HIGH wires for the tail lights. Turn signals work great. They flash fine, but not what I expected. They go from HIGH to LOW to off, then HIGH to LOW to off.

Now the problem: (sorry for the long post)

When I turn the headlights on, and try to use the turn signals, I can hear the electonic flasher click once, but the lights never change. If I look really close, They get fade to fractionally brighter, then back to low.

What did I screw up? I get the feeling that the flasher unit is not working correctly, or not really compatible with what I am trying to do. HELP!
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Unread 07-23-2016, 12:18 AM   #2
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A couple of questions: how many connections does the flasher have? You are NOT using a regular turn signal switch? You do realize that a turn signal switch has a built in canceling to allow the light to flash while you are stepping on the brakes. Using a toggle switch won't have this feature. Plus depending on the flasher...many flashers have a problem with LED lights because the resistance is so low. Strongly suggest you use a regular turn signal switch.
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Unread 07-23-2016, 09:48 AM   #3
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The flasher has two connections. I assume in and out? One might be labeled "X" and the other "L", but I don't know what either of them mean. I lost the package for it long ago. I was originally going to use this flasher to upgrade my motorcycle to LED, but then never did.

No, I am not using a regular turn signal switch. I don't have the brake lights hooked up. Maybe someday, but not in the immediate future. I would need to come up with a switch for that as well, and at that time I might upgrade to something different.

The flasher unit I am using is an electronic flasher, as opposed to a thermal flasher. I was under the impression this was the right way to go for LED lights, due to the resistance you mentioned. LED does not have enough resistance for a thermal flasher to work correctly.
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Two issues...there are many electronic flashers that still won't work with LED....typically your best choice is a flasher that says: No Load. But your main issue is feedback and the attached diagram will solve that issue. You want to make sure that your power wire is switched so the flasher turns off when you are not using the cart...this will make an electronic flasher last longer. Hope this helps.
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What are the diodes for? to make sure power cannot backfeed? Also, I have the flasher before the on/off/on switch. When the switch is in the off position, that should break the circuit so the flasher will not wear out too soon, right?

Can the flasher be backwards? or will it not work at all if it is?
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Typically the +12v input of the flasher is marked "X" "B" or "+", the output of the flasher is marked "L" (load/light).

You may also have a second output marked "P" (pilot light) for a dash indicator.

If the 2-pin flasher has a negative pigtail or metal can, it needs to be connected to the negative source.

As mentioned before, those 2-pin electronic "timed" circuit flasher still depend on load current to work correctly, some application will still need a load resistor.

You may also be getting cross-circuit feedback from the LED taillight (or LED bulbs) themselves.

The easiest way to test for that is to turn the headlights ON so the taillights are ON, then with the Blinker OFF, measure the voltage on each side of your blinker SPDT switch.

If the wire coming from the LED blinker light has +12v (or any voltage), you have feedback and installing a diode in series with the blinker wire (cathode towards the LED) will fix the issue.
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Unread 07-25-2016, 10:11 PM   #7
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I will check the voltage next time I go out. tonight I ran a test of sorts... I turned the headlights on, then turned one side of the turn signals on, then shorted across the terminals of the flasher. bright lights came right on. I am thinking the flasher is not a no-load flasher. I'm going to look at getting a different one tomorow. I thought all electronic flashers were no load. I guess not.

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