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Unread 07-28-2016, 02:48 PM   #11
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I'm not necessarily looking for 25+mph but perhaps a little more speed out of my 2006 DS.

Am I understanding correctly that I can bolt on a Plum Quick Bandit without any other mods required (I understand other mods may be recommended but what is minimally required) and still gain some from that? And do I understand Plum Quick's site correctly in that the "motor brake" as I call it will be disabled with this - I kinda like the slowing down hills instead of standing on the brakes.

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Unread 07-28-2016, 04:38 PM   #12
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See this thread. I think the programmer cost me less than $150 shipped. Well worth it. No motor upgrade, no controller. Just 20" tall tires and this programmer.

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Unread 07-28-2016, 04:52 PM   #13
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Forgot to mention that you can get really close to 25 MPH with just a speed magnet. At least with the 2007. Not sure about the 2011. Does the serial number start with PQ?
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Looking at picking up another precedent......what is my best approach to attaining approximately 25mph in the cart? I feel like sometimes we throw money at these carts on mods that are trendy and don't always see the performance we anticipate. I hear mention of gears, of course controllers and or motors.....

Seems like a plum quick bandit motor and done.....but looking for advice. Had a plum quick bandit in an older DS and didn't see much speed...only torque.....but I blame crappy batteries.

what my best approach....I'm looking at 2007 and 2011 48v precedents

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Big difference between the 2007 and the 2011 Precedent. The 2007 is an IQ if I'm not mistaken and the 2011 is probably an Excel. Speed magnets won't work on the Excel system. You need a little more info on the difference before you'll know which way to go. JMHO Good luck
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Unread 07-29-2016, 07:48 AM   #15
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Unread 07-29-2016, 08:30 AM   #16
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Forgot to mention that you can get really close to 25 MPH with just a speed magnet. At least with the 2007. Not sure about the 2011. Does the serial number start with PQ?
I did this on my 2008 Precedent (no speed code) and only saw a 2mph increase.....granted it was super cheap.
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Unread 07-29-2016, 08:55 AM   #17
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What comes to mind here is that while you might be able to sell off a used controller with SC4 installed or the SC5 gizmo once the need for speed/power drives you to the next step you will be simply throwing money down the drain if the speed that they allow becomes not enough. These two options don't make your cart any more powerful they just allow it to go faster then the stock programming allows. But like the old saying goes "There is no replacement for displacement" when it comes to going up hills with a increased passenger load... Load your cart up with 4 plus sized folks, put the windshield up and head into the wind while going up an incline and you've nowhere near 25 MPH with one of these foolers installed...
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Unread 07-29-2016, 09:31 AM   #18
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Here is a good illustration from the Alltrax website to help make some comparisons. Like you wouldn't want to put a four barrel carburetor on a 4 cylinder just like you wouldn't want to put a 500a controller on a stock 3.3hp motor.
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Unread 07-29-2016, 09:56 AM   #19
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I think today we know a lot more about how these motors work and the controls today are considerably advanced. Hundreds if not thousands of owners have increased the controller for their stock motors and are enjoying the benefits without problems.
Remember controllers do not send amperage to the motor as in force feed. They simply allow access to more amperage.
My CC Precedent currently stock motor and 400a XCT control is 23 mph. I have monitored heat while in heavy use and see nothing alarming.

I said it before - there is more than one way to skin this cat. I know the controller first route produces more controllable results with more performance options.
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I think today we know a lot more about how these motors work and the controls today are considerably advanced. Hundreds if not thousands of owners have increased the controller for their stock motors and are enjoying the benefits without problems.
Remember controllers do not send amperage to the motor as in force feed. They simply allow access to more amperage.
My CC Precedent currently stock motor and 400a XCT control is 23 mph. I have monitored heat while in heavy use and see nothing alarming.

I said it before - there is more than one way to skin this cat. I know the controller first route produces more controllable results with more performance options.
GOSPEL TRUTH !!! In building my cart the PQE motor came first as I found it at a good deal and even with brand new batteries and 2G cables there were hills that my cart was still not going up, installed the bigger controller and it was like night & day...
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