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Unread 08-05-2019, 01:40 PM   #1
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I'm trying to align my 2011 Precedent and having trouble dialing in the camber and toe in. I'm pretty comfortable with the toe in but I'm at the point where passenger camber is positive 3/16" (top of wheel leans away from cart ) with driver side neutral. All the bushings seem OK upon initial inspection. I jacked up car and grabbed each wheel at 12 and 6 and shook up and down and back and forth and I could see only a slight movement (1/16 to 1/8") on both spindles where I have the red arrow in the picture. I've added leaf spring bushings to my cart on revolutiongolfcars, along with an alltrax controller. Should I add any other bushings or items or just accept the camber?
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Unread 08-13-2019, 04:26 PM   #2
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Default Re: Spindle or king pin issue?

The king pin and bushings should be suspect.
I guess a 2011 could have some kp bushing sleeve wear causing the slop.
To me 1/8" is too much play.
To fix this get kp kit and take the spindle to a machine shop and have them replace the bushings and ream them to fit the pin. We are talking 1-2 thousandths clearances. If you pound them in you will distort the bushing causing pin clearance issues.
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Default Re: Spindle or king pin issue?

The camber is adjustable with the eccentric cam on the bottom of the leaf spring. Loosen the four bolts that hold the leaf spring retaining plate on the spring. Loosen the jam nut on the eccentric cam. Put an 8 MM socket on the base of the eccentric cam and rotate it. It will equally affect the camber of both tires. Keep messing with it until you get the "Sweet Spot" where you have equal camber on both sides. Re-Tighten all hardware.
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Default Re: Spindle or king pin issue?

Looking at those grease fittings it looks like it hadn't been greased in a while. Could be like Raystar said. Kingpin bushings.
One other thing. You mentioned in another that you added a 1" lift in the front. That will mess up your front end geometry and throw your camber off.
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Just to clarify on you pic, the red line area will have some play Up and Down.
There is a wave washer in there to allow grease to flow.
What you don't want is movement Inward or Outward with a 12 & 6 grab test.
If there is no major slop then I would think as TahoeDawg states the eccentric cam on the spring mount should adjust it out.
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Default Re: Spindle or king pin issue?

This has been fixed. I posed the question before I submitted my order to David for the Alltrax controller in case I needed to add any bushings or front end parts to my order. I ended up ordering a controller and just leaf bushings which have been installed. After installing the bushings, I would adjust camber, adjust toe in, roll cart forward, rinse repeat about 5 times but finally got it dialed in. I'm about 1/4" negative camber on both sides and 1/16 toed in. Thanks all for the advice.
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