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Unread 10-21-2019, 11:57 AM   #1
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So Iíve been debating a new Onward & struggling with the added $2K Lithium option. Is it worth it? I searched the web but would like any feed back from owners.

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Unread 10-21-2019, 12:07 PM   #2
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Iíve had mine a few weeks now and IMO itís hands down worth it for the extra power. The acceleration is very impressive and thereís zero degradation going up hills. The run time is pretty similar to my old President 48 volt cart but it charges much quicker. Approximately 4 hours from a 10% charge to full charge using a 650 watt charger.

Definitely worth test driving to feel the difference
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Unread 10-21-2019, 05:27 PM   #3
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I've had mine for about a week now. Beside the acceleration, the big factor for me was the no need for routine battery maintenance. IMHO it is definitely work the $2k.
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Unread 10-21-2019, 06:22 PM   #4
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Also forgot to mention the battery life is expected to be 12-15 years and covered by a 6 year battery warranty. That should equate to 1-2 battery replacements for a 48 volt cart which gets you a lot closer to the extra price.
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Unread 10-22-2019, 09:48 AM   #5
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I was told yesterday by the CC dealer that my new Onward lithium cart will be shipped out around Nov. 6. Like the op, I had the same questions of lithium vs the 48v systems which I have had on all my previous carts. And like the op I have done lots of reading and research. I concluded that the pros far outweigh the cons, even if money is an issue (assuming you can afford a new cart in the first place). I hate paying such a premium for lithium but in the long run the difference should not be as great as the initial sticker shock suggests.

I consider the longevity and ease of battery maintenance to be nothing more than bonus factors but certainly they are plus points. But the real reason I went with lithium was the performance. The dealer let me have a real good test drive of his display model and they are absolutely correct in saying the torque is awesome and the performance is linear in character. By that I mean it is similar to a supercharged Jaguar vs a V8 twin turbo Mercedes. In the Mercedes there is a lag, very slight but noticeable nonetheless. It is called turbo lag which happens when the turbos are spooling up as you accelerate. I know, I own a CLS550. The Jag does not have this as its supercharger moves like a stone out of a slingshot - immediate movement from the moment of release with the stone showing no sign of hesitation at any point, not even for a split second.

That is the same thing I noticed when I drove the lithium cart. Going up a hill is virtually the same as going on level payment, while driving my CC 48v displays the normal drag. The movement off the line shows the torque difference and it is dramatically different, moving forward like an arrow. Riding the lithium cart, especially when tuned to sport mode, is a different and decidedly better (and fun) driving experience. Just drive one around for about a half hour and you will see what I mean.

Having said all this, performance aside, the new cart will be only slightly different from my Precedent with the Phantom body I installed on it last year. My advice and recommendation (admitting I do not have the cart yet) is to buy the new lithium technology if you can afford the extra cost.
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Unread 10-22-2019, 11:29 AM   #6
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Greatly appreciate the feedback. I have an appointment for Friday to test drive both.
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Unread 10-22-2019, 11:46 AM   #7
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Deep Cycle Lead Acid Batteries are the Rotary phones of tomorrow. 20 years from now we will look back and laugh that we actually used this ancient technology.
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Unread 10-22-2019, 12:33 PM   #8
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Default Re: Onward Lithium vrs Deep Cell

This thread was interesting to read. I just went through the same debate. Went into my dealer to buy a set of batteries for my other cart and ended up buying the batteries and a new 2020 onward. I did not go with lithium. I am in FL where its flat so the hill climibng wasn't a big deal to me. The batteries are only warrantied for 6 years so anytime after that if they go its on me and the replacement cost was more than traditional batteries. Sure they say could get 10-15 years but I couldn't find any research on the actual life where they were in a golf cart for 10-15 years and still going.

I just replaced my set of crown batteries that were from July of 2013. I got a little more than 6 years out of them which is the same length of time the lithium are warrantied for. So at this point in time I couldn't justify the price. I may regret it down the road I'm not sure but for now I am enjoying my onward.
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Unread 10-25-2019, 07:57 PM   #9
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Ok went to the dealer & test drove both 48V Onward & the Lithium Ion. I liked the Ion cart. I placed & order for a Special Edition with the Lithium Ion. ��
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Ok went to the dealer & test drove both 48V Onward & the Lithium Ion. I liked the Ion cart. I placed & order for a Special Edition with the Lithium Ion. ��
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