Upgrade questions

Jseal

I have a 2006 Precedent, with a 6” Steeleng lift kit, with 23” dia offroad wheels and tires. As I understand it, I have options for speed upgrades. I live in a hilly area.
Option 1: speed controller reset to 5, from the standard setting of 4.
Option 2: install Alltrax 300 amp controller, for an increase in speed and torque.
Option 3: 400 amp controller, 200 amp solenoid, cable upgrade.
Option 4: option 3 , plus motor upgrade.
I do not personally feel like spending the big $$$ for option 4, and option 3 would be a stepping stone for the future. I am most curious about the relative difference and results from either option 1 or 2, and would hope that someone with way more knowledge than I, ( read, “ everybody”) could chime in. Thankyou in advance!!

BGW

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Fairtax4me

Option 1 is not even really an option. It will get to a few extra mph on flat ground or down hill, but it’s not gonna do a thing for going up.
To turn 23s up a hill, you need amps. Skip everything and go straight to option 5.
500 amp controller, 400amp solenoid, High torque motor. You might be able to get one of the Torque/speed combo motors if you only ever drive on asphalt, but if you plan to use it off road, sand, mud, hunting, trails, tall grass, etc. You’re gonna need the dedicated high torque motor.
Amps are what get you up the hill. The more amps you can throw at it, the faster it will go up the hill. Amps come from the controller, that’s the bottle neck, and where you need the most capacity if you want to be able to run big tires.
Top speed is limited to the motors max RPM which is usually around 6,000 rpm, maybe a little bit more depending on which motor you get. Whether it’s a stock motor, a mild motor, or a wild motor, 6,000 is still 6,000. What changes the most is how fast you get to 6,000, and that comes from... more amps.

Probably not what you wanna hear, but you can do this in stages. Controller, solenoid, cables first, Then motor. If your batteries are old or mismatched or out of balance, replace those with a quality brand before anything else. All the upgrades in the world do you no good if the pack can’t produce the power you need.

Jseal

Fairtax4me, thankyou for the succinct reply... puts it all in perspective!! I basically run on asphalt, with some pasture tootling also. New 12v x4 Trojan T-1275 batteries installed. We are about to get dumped on ( So Cal), so pasture performance will be interesting... I shall save my pennies and explore your suggestions. Thankyou again.

Budule

the 4 12 volt batteries wont give you much range after all those upgrades , 1st mod most do with those is change to 6 8 volts batteries.....

Roy Gurley

Icky

Why is that?

Fairtax4me

Because a 4x12v battery pack has far less Amp Hour capacity than a 6x8v pack does.

Typical 12v batteries are around 150-170AH.
8v batteries are usually around 190-200AH capacity. It might not seem like much, but that extra 10-15% AH capacity turns into about 20-30% longer run time. Especially when used with a higher power motor/controller combo where more amps are needed. The 200AH pack will have a lower discharge rate than a
170AH pack, when placed under the same load conditions.

Icky

Thank you for the clarification. It’s always nice the way people get treated on this forum , so refreshing.


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TexTurbo

Hello Icky !

Here is a link for you to look thru referencing converting your Precedent 4x12s to 6x8s...

http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/elect...-part-1-a.html

I have done this mod a number of times, just recently on a cart just like yours.
I'm a ways down the road from you, but our terrain in similar... neighbors report a far better range and a small increase in hill climbing (torgue) ability !

When you get ready to plunge in the upgrade pool, you wont find better folks to work with than Scottyb at Carts Unlimited, and Dave at Revolution... Both sponsor of the site and all around great guys !!!

Enjoy the addiction !

Icky

Hey Tex,
Just to clarify my cart is factory 6x8 volt setup. I was just curious about the difference between the 2 power wise