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Old 07-28-2009, 07:18 PM   #1
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Question electric 96cc still having solenoid/want run problems

Have received lots of helpful info,thanks much. I have 50+ volts on each lrg; termenal of the sol.and none on the 2 small termenals. I can run a screwdriver between the lrg termenal that goes to the controller and the small termenal next to lrg;positive termenal and it will run.Also there is 50 + volts at the micro switch on the accelerator.I know this very hard to help when one is not looking at the cart but any help would very welcome. thanks for the time and trouble.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:13 AM   #2
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Default Re: electric 96cc still having solenoid/want run problems

I would look at your MICRO'S on your F&R switch as you say you have power to pedal micro so key switch must be working. The next place would be your pedal control and you say you have power there so next would be F&R micro not working or bad connection. From there it would be a bad solenoid, BUT you say there is NO POWER to small terminals. From your voltage readings you must have a 48 volt cart, with controller? Is it a V glide with controller, or a V glide with Resistors, or a Black pedal unit under drivers side floor with controller?
It really helps to know what style controls you have to help with repairs. 1995-1996 Club Cars had many different set ups so it does get confusing when trying to help a forum member.
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:42 AM   #3
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sorry running late to your replay. It is a black box under drivers side floor and not a v glide. as i said before, i can jump across solenoid from the lrg termenalthat goes to the controller(yellow cable) to the small termenal by the hot (red cable) termenal and it will run.Sometimes it want do anything no matter what termenal you cross. this has only happen three times ,has not done this any more,but still have to jump solenoid to make run.Problems like this are hard to trace. This cart ran find the year the man bought it in 96 and he past away the next year and the cart sat until i got it a week ago. also no current on either small terms on sol;with gas pedal down/ign.sw.on. thanks for any help.Ron
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:36 PM   #4
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Default Re: electric 96cc still having solenoid/want run problems

The black box under drivers floor has a micro switch under cover that may be what is giving problems, or it could be the whole unit from corroding all these years?
Power flow is as follows-- Battery pack plus cable end TO Key switch TO micro inside Black Box ( BOX No LONGER AVAILABLE Later model replacement $250 plus ) TO micro on back of F&R switch TO solenoid. This will give you something to trace out for problem.
You should have battery pack voltage or some less along the way to solenoid.
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:28 PM   #5
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Thanks OLD MEC. I have checked all of this and i 50+volts thru ign;sw; to micro at accel;pedal to forward/rev sw;to the lrg;term; + side of solenoid and on lrg;term; going to controller and + side small term; with accel; depressed,but when i put a volt meter on the lrg;sol;term;going to controller, when the accel; is depressed the volts start to drop,will drop from 50+v to 0v the more you depress the accel; If i jump between the lrg sol;term; that goes to controller and the small term;by the hot lrg; termenal it will run ok.thanks Ron
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:53 PM   #6
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Thanks OLD MEC. I have checked all of this and i 50+volts thru ign;sw; to micro at accel;pedal to forward/rev sw;to the lrg;term; + side of solenoid and on lrg;term; going to controller and + side small term; with accel; depressed,but when i put a volt meter on the lrg;sol;term;going to controller, when the accel; is depressed the volts start to drop,will drop from 50+v to 0v the more you depress the accel; If i jump between the lrg sol;term; that goes to controller and the small term;by the hot lrg; termenal it will run ok.thanks Ron
The answer is in here somewhere So you jumper from the large solenoid terminal on the controller side to a small solenoid terminal? Really? And it runs??? Okay you know that that the lrg. solenoid terminal on the controller side is switched by the solenoid and it is positive. The solenoid only switches when pos is present at one small terminal and neg is present at the other small terminal. SO where are you jumping the big POSITIVE CABLE to a pos or a neg?
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:22 AM   #7
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Scottyb, thanks, I am jumping from the lrg;termenal with yellow cable that goes to the controller to the small positive termenal on the solenoid.This small term;is only hot when the accel; is pushed down and it will run ok. Also if i don't jump the solenoid and mash the accel; down it will try to start (bump wheels) and then nothing.Thanks Ron.
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:50 PM   #8
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Hi, I am still having the same problem as described on my 96cc 48v. I have bypass obc and nothing happened,all connections have been rechecked. It will only bump the rear wheels and stop when first press the gas pedal and then it stops. I can bypass the solenoid and it will run good. The only thing i have found from the get go was the solenoid and it was replaced, the resistor checked ok and the diode is bad, the dealer said this would not keep it from running. Thanks for any help. i am just now getting time to work on it again.
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:59 PM   #9
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For it to just "bump" the wheels and then nothing is usually the OBC. The "bump" usually comes from the voltage trying to run through the resistor between the two big posts on the solenoid. Does the resistor get hot if you hold the accel pedal down? Try this, hook a jumper from the main neg. battery cable to the small yellow trigger wire on the solenoid, see if cart will run. Also hook a jumper from the main pos. battery cable to the red small trigger wire on the solenoid. Keep us posted.
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Old 09-17-2009, 10:18 AM   #10
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Thanks for the reply. This is what i did,I had a bad connector on my jumper wire, i replace it and jumped the solenoid yellow wire termenal to the #6 neg battery termenal and it runs fine. This according to the manual tells me that the obc is bad,also the resistor on the solenoid that connects between the 2 lrg termenals does get very hot.Can i bypass the obc if this is the problem and use a timer on my charger? Where is the best place to buy the diode and the resistor and the obc.Thanks for all the help. Ron
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