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Unread 11-12-2007, 04:26 PM   #21
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Well it is definately f/r handle not the switch. I think I will wait for the obc to come my luck isn't very good right now! Everything I seem to touch lately is in the crapper! But once again phasetim I appreciate the information it has been very helpful! Something I might pass along though...... When ordering the obc, the people asked me if I had just purchased new batteries. I replied no, this all started when I was attempting to upgrade my battery cables. They stated that they notice with Club Cars that when the batteries are replaced or there is any upgrade to amperage it tends to take out the obc's on club cars. They are not sure why, thinking that maybe there is somekind of memory or it gets used to a certain amperage, that if there is an increase it takes them out. This makes more sense now to me, seeing out the solenoid was not the issue as I thought it was. Apparently they see this issue quite frequently, I was wondering if you had heard of this or anybody else?

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Unread 11-12-2007, 05:35 PM   #22
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They stated that they notice with Club Cars that when the batteries are replaced or there is any upgrade to amperage it tends to take out the obc's on club cars.
From my experience, that is not true... What they are probably seeing, is people not knowing their OBC is bad, so they change their batteries then realize the charger isn't working. Hopefully the people there at your shop aren't the culprits in that expensive mistake. I've had more than one person want to change their batteries when they are a year old, and leave with just a computer replacement bill. Nothing like saving a customer money to make a friend. (I've gotten plenty of free deer steaks from situations like that :-)

The thought that the computer gets used to a certain voltage or amperage is questionable because the computer doesn't recieve heavy voltage from that 6 gauge wire. It reads pulses through the wire, but doesn't actually get hit with it. The small wires shouldn't be enough to weaken the system. Computers are fickle things though, I've seen cars with them working after 10 years and some that break a year later.

I would be careful, it almost seems like you have your car at a parts changer, not a mechanic. I won't say always, but anything that goes out routinely has an explanation why. To say "not sure why, but this $200 part breaks" is kinda scary. With all that said, I will say that lightning is a big culprit in the destruction of OBCs. This summer I was changing 2-5 computers per storm.
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Unread 11-12-2007, 07:48 PM   #23
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OK finally some resolution!!! I just picked my cart up, and I told him about the hot wire you suggested and he said he did that and it did run!!!!! So I know now that the obc is bad just not sure what caused it! Anyway the guy was pretty straight forward and I was ordering the parts myself online. So he wasn't making any money from that. The place I was ordering the parts from online is the one that indicated the issue with obc's and the new batteries, but who knows I guess somebody just speculating? Just in case there is a delay in the shipping of my OBC let me get this hot wire thing down correctly..... You run a wire from the yellow wire on the solenoid to the positive or negative side of the battery computer is hooked to. Do you disconnect the yellow wire from the solenoid when you do this or leave it connected. The jumper wire is connected to the yellow wire correct?

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Unread 11-12-2007, 08:01 PM   #24
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You run it to battery pack negative, and you can leave the yellow wire connected or disconnect it, either way. The yellow wire going to the solenoid is the negative activation. It is directly linked to the computer. By connecting that post to negative you are bypassing the safety, and continually entering battery pack (-) on the solenoid post. In essence its making the computer solely for the purpose of charging.

two things on this issue though:

1.) Make sure you don't drive away with your charger connected
2.) When the safety goes out and you hotwire it; sometimes a week sometimes a year, but the other side of the computer will follow. So, buying a new one is not a bad thing, and I would not cancel your order.
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Unread 11-26-2007, 04:39 PM   #25
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Hey Phasetim, I hope your holiday was wonderful and you got all setteled into that new house! While you were enjoying the holidays I was being frustrated again! Did the bypass worked fine.....received the new computer but while I went back to work for a few days the charger stopped working. I thought about what you said and the computer going bad someties quickly so I put the new computer on and still the charger does not kick on. I was also noticing that prior the charge was only lasting a short time during the day after being on the charger all night. Any was of testing the charger? Thanks again!
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Unread 11-26-2007, 06:53 PM   #26
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Additionally, I was doing some research and I read that if the batteries are completely dead that some chargers wont kick on? This sounds reasonable...however I'm thinking my charger might have ruined my batteries in the first place because it never automatically shut off. Shouldn't it have auto shut off being a '98? When I bought it the guy told me he ran 8 miles on a charge, although I added a lift kit and tires but I don't imagine I would have traveled 2 miles. Does the computer have anything to do with the auto shut off?
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Unread 11-26-2007, 11:45 PM   #27
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[QUOTE]I was doing some research and I read that if the batteries are completely dead that some chargers wont kick on?/QUOTE]

rgr that, there is a power relay in charger that needs voltage to turn on.

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This sounds reasonable...however I'm thinking my charger might have ruined my batteries in the first place because it never automatically shut off
Actually the shut off feature lies totally within the computer, not the charger..
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Unread 11-27-2007, 02:00 PM   #28
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Great........ then I should be OK I just need to get some juice into my batteries, since I have a new computer installed! Can I isolate 2 or 3 of the 8-volt batteries at a time and put a car charger on to at least get some juice in them to trigger the charger?
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