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Unread 11-04-2007, 11:13 AM   #1
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Default Charging problem 1996 Club Car 48V DS non-regen cart

Hello I am new to this forum.
I have a 1996 Club Car 48V DS non-regen cart.
We have had this cart for 3 years with no problems other than the left side of the cart sags lower than the right. We purchased new batteries 2 years ago and they were installed at the dealer. The other day I watered the batteries (distilled water, after fully charging them) and here is where the problems begin. To start with I fully charged the batteries and it took longer than usual (24 hours). I then watered them and I was going to charge them for another hour or so to mix the electrolyte and the charger would not come back on. I came on this forum and learned that there is an on-board charging computer and that they give lots of problems. I also downloaded a wiring diagram. Here's where the fun begins. I discovered that someone has performed a hack job on my cart. The fuse on the cart side of the charging receptacle has been bypassed. The black wire on the receptacle is supposed to connect to the fuse and then the black wire running to the OBC connects to the fuse. The fuse was connected to nothing. The black wire coming out of the receptacle has been spliced directly to a another peice of wire which has been run directly to the - post of the first battery in the series. The black wire that runs to the OBC is connected to nothing. The red wire from the receptacle is still running to the + post of the last battery in the series. The only wire from the receptacle to the OBC is the grey wire with a fuse in it. Is it possible that this is only providing a reference voltage to the charger to tell it to turn on. Also the charger itself is fine we plugged it into another Club car and it worked fine. Is it possible that somebody has done this to basicly bypas the onboard computer. It never gave this problem before. By the way sorry for the long post, but I was trying to be as descriptive as possible about my situation.
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Unread 11-04-2007, 07:00 PM   #2
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Default Re: Charging problem 1996 Club Car 48V DS non-regen cart

If there is no wire going through the OBC, then it can not really read voltage going to your batteries...

I would fix everything first, then try it, and go from there...
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Unread 11-04-2007, 07:42 PM   #3
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The large black wire is running from the - post of the first battery in the series through the OBC and to the controller as it should. The wire which is not hooked up is the black wire that hooks up to the charging receptacle fuse and runs to the OBC. It has been unhooked and the black wire from the charging receptacle has been hooked up to the same post on the first battery in the series as the large wire which is running through the OBC and to the controller. What I don't understand is why I have never had any problems before. Theoretically the way in which it is hooked up should have never worked to start with.
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Unread 11-04-2007, 08:52 PM   #4
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Default Re: Charging problem 1996 Club Car 48V DS non-regen cart

Not so, if the charger wire is hooked up to the battery, then it is getting to the same location (Technically), and taking a fuse out of the system is dangerous, but not crippling. The wire is still going through OBC thus, giving info to it...
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If the fuse is gone, then that's obviously not the problem... I would verify that the receptacle is good, and that you are getting voltage to it properly... Pull on battery wires to make sure that they are all secure, and don't just look good.

Finally, disconnect the negative battery post and let it sit for 10-15 minutes, then plug it back in, drive car for 10 seconds, try charging again...

If all of that fails to find anything bad, then you have pretty well isolated that the OBC is the problem.

The symptoms all fit the bill for a computer to be bad. Just do yourself a favor, make sure you install that fuse back on the charger recptacle. Every so often a lightning bolt will jump it, but I've seen that fuse save people a lot of money.

It certainly wouldn't hurt to rewire everything else properly as well.
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Unread 11-04-2007, 09:22 PM   #5
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I have done all that. I followed the procedures to unhook the battery and completely drain the power from the system until the reverse buzzer will not sound anymore. Also today I completely unhooked all of the battery cables (even though there was no corrosion), used battery cleaner on all cable ends and terminals, dried everything thoroughly, reconnected and tightened everything, and resprayed everything with protector. Still nothing from the charger even though the cart is still running fine. I think I am just going to go ahead and get the new computer and fuse, and repair all the hacked wiring. I have already checked the charging receptacle and I am getting continuity all the way from the receptacle to the terminals at the other end of the wires coming from it. Thanks for the help.
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Unread 11-04-2007, 11:20 PM   #6
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You are on the right track.
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Unread 02-05-2011, 01:13 PM   #7
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Any way to wire the charger to the cart with out the obc?
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Unread 02-05-2011, 01:36 PM   #8
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Default Re: Charging problem 1996 Club Car 48V DS non-regen cart

Sorry jumping in late on this problem but, nowhere in your posts unless I missed it did you give brand and model number of your charger? If its NOT A ( Club Car Charger MODEL #17930 POWER DRIVE CHARGER number located on side of unit ) it does not require the OBC ( on board computer ) that you now have by passed. ALL replacement after market charges have either a built in battery condition sensing control or a timer circuit that you manually reset each time charger is hooked up.
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Unread 02-05-2011, 02:08 PM   #9
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Sorry, it is a club car charger, (power drive model 22110) am i still able to charge the batts without the obc?
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Unread 02-05-2011, 02:48 PM   #10
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SORRY NO, unless you add some kind of timer circuit to your charger and leave ground from receptical hooked to negative post of battery pack? I do not recommend that as your batterys will not last very long unless you are willing to baby sit the batterys to confirm charger has been on long enough each time? THERE WILL BE NO TAPERING OFF OF CHARGE and damage will be EXPENSIVE? The need for EQUALIZING CHARGE is so important on golf cart batterys to remove the possibliity of sulfation and shortening battery life. Even then you loose the ability to I feel the OBC and Club Car charger is the best set up available, even if it is a pain at times? Just add a meter of your choice and install it where light is now mounted in dash. NOTE I do not recommend many meters as they dont last very long or give incorrect readings ( I like analog "adjustable" meters ) as they are most fool proof in my opinion.
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