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Unread 10-10-2009, 11:42 PM   #11
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Thanks to all for some great input. I'm going to do a little experiment and try the batteries and solenoid first. Just to see what happens. I'm not goingto be far from home and if something does melt it shouldn't matter cause I'll be replacing parts anyway. But if it works for a while I'll then replace the cables with #4. I'll see what that does for a bit. Then as I can or as is required by breakage I'll finish the job with the additional items. May prove to be a great learning experience. I'll keep everyone up on the outcome of each step.
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Unread 10-11-2009, 11:52 AM   #12
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Be sure to keep us posted with the results. Helps separate the BS for the buckwheat.
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Unread 10-11-2009, 01:35 PM   #13
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I don't mean to be disrespectful of anyone's advice here. My experience taught me differently. Can it be done? Well, yes... BUT I think that there are enough potential problems with type of throw 48v in her and go that it is dangerous to advise anybody to do it.... I learned the hard way .... I had one of these that I drove for a year on and offroad with no problem because I knew how to drive it to avoid the heat that high amp draw will build.... I gave the cart to someone else to drive and within a month it was in total meltdown. Coils, V-glide, Cables, 1 battery and more ..... We upgraded to solid state and never had another problem. This is why I will not recommend running a 36v cart on 48v without changing to a solid state speed control system also... If you can't afford to do it right, be safe & pass on the upgrade ... Sorry, My next advice is carry a fire extinguisher
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Unread 10-11-2009, 01:47 PM   #14
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Sorry, My next advice is carry a fire extinguisher
Agreed, You will melt a lot of the stock system.
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Unread 10-11-2009, 02:25 PM   #15
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I don't mean to be disrespectful of anyone's advice here. My experience taught me differently. Can it be done? Well, yes... BUT I think that there are enough potential problems with type of throw 48v in her and go that it is dangerous to advise anybody to do it.... I learned the hard way .... I had one of these that I drove for a year on and offroad with no problem because I knew how to drive it to avoid the heat that high amp draw will build.... I gave the cart to someone else to drive and within a month it was in total meltdown. Coils, V-glide, Cables, 1 battery and more ..... We upgraded to solid state and never had another problem. This is why I will not recommend running a 36v cart on 48v without changing solid state speed control.... If you can't afford to do it right, be safe & pass on the upgrade ... Sorry, My next advice is carry a fire extinguisher
Well said scotty!!!
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Unread 10-24-2009, 10:15 AM   #16
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Here's the latest update.... Installed a heavy duty 48v solenoid, and put in Trojan 875s. Just finished rewiring everything in the small wire catagory using 14 guage wire. Ran about a week with no ill effects thus far. I took someone's advice and basically use full throttle or coast. Very little mid-range or slow speed. Installed two temp probes at negative battery wire on the last battery as it is the longest wire (#6) and at the wire feeding the motor (also #6). Noted no abnormal temps at this point.

Just changed all battery and motor wiring to #4 wire and new connections. So now I only have two #6 wires left. One runs between the f/r swith and the solenoid, and the other runs from the f/r switch to the v-glide. These will be my test wires for temp and load measurements. After two days no abnormal temps.

I'm actually doing all this just to see what happens. I've seen the pictures of what can happen and I just want to test out the theories. I also ordered an Alltrax 4855 controller and a D & D ES-81 motor. When they arrive the test is over and I'll get down to serious upgrading. I've found a marginal speed increase (still not even 15mph on the flats but close), and noticeable torque increase taking on hills. It used to climb at less than a slow walk and now it climbs at just under cruise speed.

Hopefully the last upgrades will give me 20+mph on the flats and big time torque increase. We'll see.... Any comments or sugestions are always greatly appreciated. I'm curious as to whether the ES-81 is the best choice over the 3:2 motor. I'm told the ES is more experimental while the 3:2 is tried and true but the torque is not as great.
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Unread 10-24-2009, 11:49 AM   #17
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It's nice to see your test results, albeit short term testing, for this conversion. There's always so much voodoo and speculation about massive meltdowns and misinformation that an actual test is good to see. Any system will fail if it is stressed to the max and then additional voltage is applied. I'm curious to see how your V-Glide held up to the test and it's condition after you do the controller/motor change.
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Unread 10-25-2009, 11:00 AM   #18
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My opinion and only my opinion.
To have a cart that you either can't drive fast or slow , really defeats the purpose of having a Controller , V-glide, POT box ...etc. , and surely defeats the purpose of the upgrade.
Just Skip all that crap and hardwire it for top speed.This is stupid !
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Unread 10-25-2009, 11:07 AM   #19
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Basically at WOT and coast the coils are out of the system.... so
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Unread 10-25-2009, 11:18 AM   #20
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YUP my point exactly !
Why run the risk of damaging anything , if the only way you can do this is WOT.

I am not recommending this , only using it to make a point of how Fr$%^ Bumb
I think this is.
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