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Unread 02-24-2010, 04:59 PM   #11
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If I'm already running 4g cables and upgrade to an Alltrax 400 amp controller, is there anything else that I would be required to change or upgrade at that time?

Then, is there anything that is recommend to change at that time, other than a new motor, that would also improve performance or service?
What cart do you have? I've not been a motor change person, as most stock motors will do what you need them to do with the right "extras"!

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Unread 02-24-2010, 05:16 PM   #12
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2/0...WOW i think he means #2 awg
No 2/0 was right the first time.
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What cart do you have? I've not been a motor change person, as most stock motors will do what you need them to do with the right "extras"!
It's a 99 Club Car DS 48volt with a 4 inch lift and 20inch tires. I'm not really looking to change the motor either, but that's been some of the suggestions I've read here. I really don't care about any more speed, I want the torque and reliability.
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Sunking .... show us them 2/0 cables.... lets see how they look.
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Use this for a wire reference...
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It's a 99 Club Car DS 48volt with a 4 inch lift and 20inch tires. I'm not really looking to change the motor either, but that's been some of the suggestions I've read here. I really don't care about any more speed, I want the torque and reliability.
OK - Are your batteries still fresh? 4 gauge cables will help. Next item would be a controller upgrade. I like to stay in the 400 amp range to keep things simple...

We change very little motors at our shop, as I don't see the need unless there is a problem with the current one. A motor change IMO would be AFTER batteries, cables and controller. Don't put the cart before the horse

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OK - Are your batteries still fresh? 4 gauge cables will help. Next item would be a controller upgrade. I like to stay in the 400 amp range to keep things simple...

We change very little motors at our shop, as I don't see the need unless there is a problem with the current one. A motor change IMO would be AFTER batteries, cables and controller. Don't put the cart before the horse
I agree with you 100%. I had no intention of replacing the motor, especially with my kind of use. I only mentioned it because so many posts having to do with more power or more speed,,,,, the standard answer in a lot of them is to go to a bigger motor.

So do I understand things right,,,, changing the cables and upgrading the controller to a 400amp, does not require upgrading anything else in the electrical system.

Secondly, is there anything else that could be upgraded along with the cables and controller that would give me even better results of better service?
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I agree with you 100%. I had no intention of replacing the motor, especially with my kind of use. I only mentioned it because so many posts having to do with more power or more speed,,,,, the standard answer in a lot of them is to go to a bigger motor.

So do I understand things right,,,, changing the cables and upgrading the controller to a 400amp, does not require upgrading anything else in the electrical system.

Secondly, is there anything else that could be upgraded along with the cables and controller that would give me even better results of better service?
My past experiance has been just change the cables and see how it goes,if you think you need more then change the controller. Your present system should work good.I have one with that is stock and it works great and I am going to upgrade the cables,hope this helps.
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In the average cart There is about 20 feet of high current line.

With 48v @ 300 Amps you will get this approximate loss.

#6 4.9V = 10%

#4 3.1V = 6%

#2 1.9V = 4%

This does not include terminal to lug to contactor to F/R switch loss.
6% less loss due to resistance while not huge , it's worth considering.
Now add bigger controller, bigger motor High amp Solinoid and U'll be doing wheelies in the driveway and the cables will not melt (or cause something else to melt)
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