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Unread 03-29-2010, 09:03 PM   #11
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I have a 6" spindle lift with 12" rims and 23" tires. I can not seem to get the alignment right. When I toe them in 1/8 - 1/4 the right (passenger) tire grabs when turning left. The only fix I have found is to toe the right tire out until it starts scrubbing while going straight. Any suggestions are welcome as they relate.
I may be able to help you with this.... What brand lift kit are you running?
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Unread 03-30-2010, 08:36 AM   #12
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Thanks for offering. I have a Jakes 6" spindle kit.
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Unread 03-30-2010, 04:27 PM   #13
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Thanks for offering. I have a Jakes 6" spindle kit.
I'm not familiar with that kit. I know the AllSports lift well. I would imagine it's pretty similar. What's the tire scrubbing on?
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Unread 03-30-2010, 05:10 PM   #14
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If I turn hard left the right tire grabs and scrubs on the ground.
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Unread 03-30-2010, 06:11 PM   #15
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If I turn hard left the right tire grabs and scrubs on the ground.
Sounds to me like a bad spindle... If your toe setting is correct when the wheels are straight it should remain correct throughout the entire turning radius... If a spindle is bent, even just slightly, it can throw off the toe as you turn. One tire may be steering quicker than the other, and the further you steer, the further the toe is thrown off. For example, when the car is driving straight the toe adjustment is correct, but turn it half a revolution of the steering wheel and it may be 1/4inch off... turn it another half turn, and it's 1/2 inch off... I see it all the time on golf cars at golf courses... The toe will be all screwed up due to a bent spindle. I've tried before to just re-align it by setting the toe straight when the car is driving straight forward. It works great until you turn, and the further you turn the worse it gets. I know exactly what you mean about the tire scrubbing the ground. I've seen it too many times. Precedents are worse about this than DS cars. I'd look into replacing the Passenger side spindle. You'll know the problem is solved when you replace the spindle and the toe changes immediately.
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This is getting more expesive every day. Just replaced the bearings and have the bump steer coming. Thanks for the info.
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Unread 03-30-2010, 09:19 PM   #17
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This is getting more expesive every day. Just replaced the bearings and have the bump steer coming. Thanks for the info.
No problem... What exactly is a Bump Steer kit?
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Unread 03-31-2010, 12:18 PM   #18
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It consists of offset Kingpins and a spacer. It is a solution for the older precedents with the Jakes lift kit.
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Unread 03-31-2010, 04:46 PM   #19
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It consists of offset Kingpins and a spacer. It is a solution for the older precedents with the Jakes lift kit.
Gotcha. I dont understand why it's just for the older precedents... The front end hasnt changed with the exception of different bushings in 05.
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Jakes is a stand out company that I have done buisness for years and I would contact them direct. Always have been outstanding in help with what few problems I have had in past. Some of the other manufacturers?????
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