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Unread 12-14-2010, 08:37 AM   #11
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So I yanked the wheels off and replaced them with some new SS wheels (runs much smoother). I took the drums off (aftermarket drums) and sanded them with 180 grit sandpaper in a criss cross (x type) pattern to rough up them up. In reverse the brakes work great and stop the cart quickly. In forward they have improved somewhat but still don't stop it on a dime. It still seems to take too long to stop the cart. Normally not an issue unless someone decides to run in front of the cart. Any other thoughts?
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Unread 12-14-2010, 09:34 AM   #12
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So I yanked the wheels off and replaced them with some new SS wheels (runs much smoother). I took the drums off (aftermarket drums) and sanded them with 180 grit sandpaper in a criss cross (x type) pattern to rough up them up. In reverse the brakes work great and stop the cart quickly. In forward they have improved somewhat but still don't stop it on a dime. It still seems to take too long to stop the cart. Normally not an issue unless someone decides to run in front of the cart. Any other thoughts?
I think problem may be your expectations. Stock Drum style golf cart brakes will never stop on a dime. Sounds like you may need to covert your front and rear to disk brakes to get to what you expect.
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Unread 12-14-2010, 09:50 AM   #13
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CHEAPJEEP2 is correct that the brakes on golf carts are made to stop on grassy golf course only and the speed is normally regulated to about 10-14 MPH. If you were an old timer like me that drove autos with only rear wheel mechanical linkage brakes you would know why many of us converted to hydraulics and 4 wheels as soon as conversion parts were available? ( NOTE this was the days when a model T or A would do about 30-40 MPH TOPS )
Driving was grabbing the steering wheel for leverage and using both feet and hope they stopped before something got run over, AND THIS IS WHEN THE BRAKES WERE IN GOOD CONDITION?
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Unread 12-14-2010, 10:00 AM   #14
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Yeah I know the drums are not the best in the world. My cart hits 19.7 mph. Even when travelling very slow 5-10 mph the cart brakes much better in reverse. I can stop it very quickly in reverse but no so much when travelling at the same speed in forward. I will use them for a few days and then decide what to do. Time to trick it out with some of my LED lights now.

Thanks again for all of your help with this! You guys are top notch!

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Unread 12-14-2010, 10:07 AM   #15
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Yeah I know the drums are not the best in the world. My cart hits 19.7 mph. Even when travelling very slow 5-10 mph the cart brakes much better in reverse. I can stop it very quickly in reverse but no so much when travelling at the same speed in forward. I will use them for a few days and then decide what to do. Time to trick it out with some of my LED lights now.

Thanks again for all of your help with this! You guys are top notch!

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ALL REAR brakes, regardless of golf cart, car, truck, etc. will be better in reverse because they the are on the front of the motion. Think about riding a bike or motor cycle for a minute. Now when you hit only the rear brakes the bike or motorcycle slows but not like when you hit the front brakes.... When you hit the front brakes the weight of the vehicle bears down on the braking wheel to increase the drag on the wheel.

When you are going forward in your cart. Your rear brakes are only about 30% effective. When you are going in reverse, they are 70% effective because of the direction of the motion. My cart runs 27mph, on the flat, I can hit the stock brakes and lock them up. But if I am going full speed, I don't stop much sooner with sliding rear wheels because the weight is not thrust forward as there are no brakes on the front, and with no brakes on the front there is not weight bearing down on the stopping wheels.
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Unread 02-22-2011, 09:23 AM   #16
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I found my problem. The self adjusters were not adjusting and the shoes were not pressing against the drums properly. I went in and turned the adjusting wheel so that the shoes just touched the pads and they work like they are supposed to. I'm not sure why the adjusters are not working right. The arm that is supposed to be spinning the wheel seems to slip above the teeth on the wheel. Everything is loose and slides easily. The teeth are slightly worn from the arm as well. My thought are to replace the adjuster wheel and arm assembly at this point. Any thoughts?
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Unread 02-22-2011, 09:48 AM   #17
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Yep replace the star adjuster wheel, remove everything and properly lube the assemblies with break grease, make sure to keep it off of the friction surfaces.
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Unread 03-01-2011, 11:57 AM   #18
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The star adjuster wheel replacement did the trick. The were slightly worn down which was enough to cause the arm to skip over the teeth and not rotate the wheel. I did not have the screw out far enough and with the adjuster not working the brakes barely worked. With new adjusters they clicked into position and now the cart stops like it's supposed to. Thanks for all of your help!
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