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Unread 08-04-2011, 11:10 AM   #1
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A few months ago, I installed a Jakes spindle lift and 23" tires. I did my best to align the front end but that left the steering wheel off to the right about 10 to 15 degrees when driving in a straight line. A couple of weeks ago, I replaced the wheel with a Grant GT wheel using a Grant adapter. I was hoping I could find some adjustment to better center the wheel using the adapter or mounting the wheel to the adapter, but I can't find anything that works. Nothing appears to be bent in the suspension and the wheel was on center when I bought the cart and everything was stock. Is there a science to centering the wheel and keep the cart going straight at the same time?
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Unread 08-04-2011, 09:14 PM   #2
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The knuckle to rack joint will only fit one way. It's designed that way intentionally to allow the factory front end to get a 12 o clock reading on the steering wheel. Rule that out, that's not the problem. I understand you put on a lift kit, but this shouldn't change.

Now, remove your steering wheel and adapter. Don't look at it. It's irrelevant at this point.

Take a look at your steering rack. Look at the threads on each side where the ball joint threads on to the rack. You should have equal amount of threads on each side. If you don't. Make them equal. Either run one out, or run one in. Doesn't matter at this point. You can either count the threads, or measure with a tape measure. Just back off of the jam-nut and twist the shaft either into, or out of the ball joints. Don't worry about front end alignment at this point. Just get your threads equal.

Grab your tape measure. You should be able to distinguish a center point of the radius of the tire. Measure from left tire to right tire, center to center, at the forward most point of the tires. Record your measurement. Let's say it's 35" even. Measure the same two tires at the rear most point of the tire. It should be 35" 1/8". If it's not, let's get it there...

Make sure the jam nuts on the rack are backed off all the way to allow twisting of the shafts without running into the jam nuts. Take a 12mm wrench (fits nicely onto the rack ends) and "EQUALLY" adjust each side the SAME as each other until you reach your desired toe setting. For example, do a half turn out on each side. Recheck with tape measure, and so on, and so on. Just as long as you don't overdo one side, your thread measurement should not change and should stay equal with one another.

Once you reach the desired toe setting, Put the steering wheel on loosely. With a factory suspension, it will slide right on, in the top dead center 12" position and you won't need to adjust any further. However, with the imperfection of aftermarket lift kits you may have to adjust slightly on one side or the other. Let's say that the wheel is approximately 15 degrees to the right while the vehicle is going in a perfect straight line. This is where I try to explain to the guys at work how I use the "Chase the Wheel" method. You're actually wanting to force the tires in the direction of the steering wheel by adjusting the ball joints. If it's to the right, you'll run the passenger side rack shaft OUT OF the ball joint, and the driver side one INTO the ball joint. This will force both tires to turn RIGHT. Do this Equally in VERY small EVEN increments until the Top Dead Center steering wheel position is reached. Once it's there, Tighten her up and call it a night.
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Thanks David - much better now:

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bump. Sticky? Keep getting asked about this thread.
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Cleaned up, and stickied!

Previous posters... Don't complain about not having Davids phone number anymore, it was removed out of respect!
Besides, you should have written it down!
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Thank you sir.
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Have you ever had the steering column out?
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Have you ever had the steering column out?
Yes. Plenty.
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Take a look at your steering rack. Look at the threads on each side where the ball joint threads on to the rack. You should have equal amount of threads on each side. If you don't. Make them equal. Either run one out, or run one in. Doesn't matter at this point. You can either count the threads, or measure with a tape measure. Just back off of the jam-nut and twist the shaft either into, or out of the ball joints. Don't worry about front end alignment at this point. Just get your threads equal.

Grab your tape measure. You should be able to distinguish a center point of the radius of the tire. Measure from left tire to right tire, center to center, at the forward most point of the tires. Record your measurement. Let's say it's 35" even. Measure the same two tires at the rear most point of the tire. It should be 35" 1/8". If it's not, let's get it there...

Make sure the jam nuts on the rack are backed off all the way to allow twisting of the shafts without running into the jam nuts. Take a 12mm wrench (fits nicely onto the rack ends) and "EQUALLY" adjust each side the SAME as each other until you reach your desired toe setting. For example, do a half turn out on each side. Recheck with tape measure, and so on, and so on. Just as long as you don't overdo one side, your thread measurement should not change and should stay equal with one another.

Once you reach the desired toe setting, Put the steering wheel on loosely. With a factory suspension, it will slide right on, in the top dead center 12" position and you won't need to adjust any further. However, with the imperfection of aftermarket lift kits you may have to adjust slightly on one side or the other. Let's say that the wheel is approximately 15 degrees to the right while the vehicle is going in a perfect straight line. This is where I try to explain to the guys at work how I use the "Chase the Wheel" method. You're actually wanting to force the tires in the direction of the steering wheel by adjusting the ball joints. If it's to the right, you'll run the passenger side rack shaft OUT OF the ball joint, and the driver side one INTO the ball joint. This will force both tires to turn RIGHT. Do this Equally in VERY small EVEN increments until the Top Dead Center steering wheel position is reached. Once it's there, Tighten her up and call it a night.
When you say ball joint, I am trying to confirm you are referring to the ball joints located inside the bellows and not the tie rod ends located at the spindle. Is that correct? Thanks for the information.
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