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Unread 09-29-2011, 01:17 AM   #1
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Default Fire Extinguishers for your carts

Here is a basic fire extinguisher class (short and simple)

Classes of Fire Extinguishers:

Class A: ordinary combustible materials such as paper, wood, cardboard, and most plastics.

Class B: flammable or combustible liquids such as gasoline, kerosene, grease and oil (motor oil, etc.).

Class C: electrical equipment, such as appliances, wiring, circuit breakers and outlets. Never use water to extinguish class C fires - the risk of electrical shock is far too great!

Class D: combustible metals, such as magnesium, titanium, potassium and sodium.

Class K: special purpose agent for cooking oils, trans-fats, or fats in cooking appliances and are typically found in restaurant and cafeteria kitchens.

Now if you have a Sparky (electric cart) you could go with a class C. If you have a Smokey (my lingo for gas cart because I don't know any others) you could go with a class B. If you want my advice go with an ABC extinguisher because it is a multi-purpose extinguisher that will cover MOST not all of the fires you are likely to come across and believe it or not they are more common and less expensive than some of the single purpose units I have listed above. The amount of fire you can put out with one of these is determined by another rating: Portable fire extinguishers are classified to indicate their ability to handle specific classes and sizes of fires. Labels on extinguishers indicate the class and relative size of fire that they can be expected to handle. (Short and simple) Bigger extinguisher Usually means more agent to fight bigger fire!

***Warning*** Fighting fire is very hazardous and should only be attempted if there is an immediate danger to first life or second property or if you are a trained professional ie. firefighter. If it is the later remember you can always replace a cart you cannot replace a life. When there is a fire there are many extremely toxic fumes and other dangerous hazards that can cause premature death. Maybe not today or tomorrow but it will and can cause a number of problems eg. look at the number of firefighters that die from cancer and heart attacks at an earlier age than the average adult. Just saying. So use this advice and your new extinguisher as a way OUT of a bad situation. PLEASE PLEASE don't use it as a way to get yourself INTO a bad situation.

Oh yeah and CALL 911 DUH!!!
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Unread 09-29-2011, 07:43 PM   #2
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Default Re: Fire Extinguishers for you carts

what is your opinion on using a automatic/manual FM-200 bottle like this? would the 25 cu ft likely be sufficient since its not a totally enclosed space?

if it works, seems like this would be waaay safer for the layperson to just pull the cord from outside the body cowling instead of trying to lift the seat and put it out with a ABC. OR just walk away and let the thermal fuse deploy the bottle. the pressure switch could even be tied to a home alarm system!
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Unread 09-29-2011, 08:23 PM   #3
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Default Re: Fire Extinguishers for you carts

I put out a small cart fire on the golf course once! It was a resistor cart and it had been parked against a tree with the pedal partway applied with a cooler. Intentional or not, flaming debris was falling down under it and I had a 1" sprinkler hose in my hands! It worked quite adequately for that instance! I certainly wouldn't recommend doing this on anything with higher voltage ( 36V )! I actually didn't even give it a thought until afterwards!
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SonicJ, after reading some of the info on the FM-200 system I believe it is a class ABC extinguisher or comparable since it says it is for stopping ordinary combustible, electrical, and flammable liquid fires. I'm not trained in maritime firefighting so don't take that to the bank just relating the basic fire classifications I know to it. I know the on board auto/manual systems have been used for some time in the auto racing industry with great success and would probably be just as good if not better in a tight space like the motor/battery compartment of a golf cart, but my guess is they're pricey, mounted so they wouldn't be easily accessible if you wanted or needed it for a situation outside of your cart compartment, it's a gas that will dissipate so it won't leave you much of a security blanket once it's been fired if you do have a rekindle. All that said I would still go with the ABC so you can cover all the bases. The FM-200 is worth looking into as a supplemental system. Hopefully this has helped you some.
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Unread 09-29-2011, 11:35 PM   #5
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Simple man, You did what most people who want to help would do.....saw a problem, saw a possible solution and reacted. Unless you work on an airport you won't have access to anything that is rated for electric fires in very much quantity. You worked with what you has available and any fire department that showed up would have done the same thing just with a bigger hose. If we get toned out on a wreck with an electric vehicle with trapped occupants you can bet your sweet seat we will be using water to try and cool the fire and give us a chance to extricate the victims. This being said that is a life and possibly death situation and we have nozzles that produce a broken stream to minimize the chance of creating a path for the current to travel and not to mention don't stand in that puddle either.
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Unread 09-30-2011, 02:28 AM   #6
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thats kinda what i was thinking... let the fm-200 do its thing and keep another bottle outside the battery bay if it re-lights or for other use. the 25 cu ft is $159 and measures 2.5" x 9" and the 50 cu ft is 3.5" x 12" for $219. not so expensive when compared to a emergency room visit or the amount of time and $ some have invested in their carts.

i'll probably just get a regular ABC for now but if i start parking/charging it inside a attached garage i'll likely pick one up.

i was looking through some MSDS material for lead acid batteries and thought i'd share some screen caps. both back up what you were saying about the potentially dangerous fumes. thought it was interesting that east penn warns against thermal shock while energizer recommends cooling off heated cells.
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Unread 09-30-2011, 09:00 AM   #7
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the 1st elec cart i ever worked on caught fire ( my fault ) and the only thing i had was a hose and it worked fine............wasn,t a barn burner but it wasn,t a small one either.........figure every cable and wire in cart was on fire..........it was a 92 E-Z go i guess i should have just let it burn.....but it was coming out of my pocket.......i know the hose was the last thing to grab but its all i had in the area.....had i waited for the proper tool it would have been a barn burner..........................
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Picked up a B/C extinguisher yesterday. Now I will have to figure out a good spot to mount it too on the cart.
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thats kinda what i was thinking... let the fm-200 do its thing and keep another bottle outside the battery bay if it re-lights or for other use.
I like this idea. I wish I had a halon alternative like the fm-200, or even a CO2 extinguisher when my Ducati caught fire. All that was available was a dry chemical extinguisher. 10 years later and I'm still finding that damned powder behind bolts, and other places.

But the worst thing? There was a distinct "POP!" sound during my bike fire. Battery exploded, raining acid all over the bike's motor. That was a bigger mess than the fire!
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SonicJ, Sounds like a good plan with a great back up plan. I will probably do the same since I will be storing it in the garage soon to start my project.


erict, Saw a pic of I believe chevy's cart and he had it mounted horizontally just under the water/beer/pop holder and it seem to tuck up under there out of the way quite nicely. .

shadowman, I would've done the same thing. Use what you've got just be as careful as you can.
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