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Unread 10-05-2011, 03:41 PM   #31
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Even though the eBay advertisement is for gas I guess it doesn't matter. Correct?
I went and looked at the link because I bought my light kit for an electric cart. I had a message that the listing had been updated by the seller but I could see the item that I bought. I clicked on the message link and it took me to the light kit that I purchased and it was for an electric Cart.

The wiring harness is different for the gas carts I believe.
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Unread 10-05-2011, 07:39 PM   #32
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Even though the eBay advertisement is for gas I guess it doesn't matter. Correct?
I e-mailed seller, she said it worked for Electric too, will let you know shortly, ordered one.
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Unread 10-05-2011, 09:28 PM   #33
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Zackman,... Thanks for the comment. I'm sure it will help many that will want to install the light kit in the furture. As far as a picture, they are all the same. They look like the original OEM light, front and rear. I purchased the one that came with the bucket harness since I have the 2008.5 unit that did not come with any harness.

On the converter I will get one but not until I get all of this done. We are all learning stuff everyday.

Erict,... I believe the answer is "NO". The entire bucket harness, light kit, dash panel, brake lights, etc. are wired using the negative terminal of the #4 battery which goes inside to the OBC, and the controller. If you move the + and - wiring to another battery I can not imagine what kind of problems would occur or how you would have to change the rest of the wiring.

SaltLifeCC.... YOu are lucky in that your 2006 CC came with the harness built in. However, the main bucket in your cart can not be converted to +8volt batteries.

My next task is to get the Turn signal kit installed. It turns out I got a kit that does not come with the 9 pin maiting connector and this is a real problem as I can't find anyone to sell me the maiting connnector. Also since the bucket harness has the basic wiring for the brake light switch, I did not buy that kit. Now I'm stuck bending metal and drilling holes and mounting the switches by myself,...really dump thing to do. Oh Well,..live and learn.

I'll add more when I EVER get this done.
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Unread 10-06-2011, 12:00 AM   #34
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Basic Question about the Brake light kit. I have the parts to make the same brake light kit as the one sold by Buggiesunlimited,..there model BRK CC5 1001K BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH KIT. You can view the entire installation instructions in PDF from at their website under the Help section. Anyway, part 2 of the installation is to bolt the Parking switch under the floor and to do this their instructions say to remove the large rubber foot at the bottom of the brake petal. I tried this and it won't come up. In checking the 2008 Club Car Illustrated parts PDF, it shows that the large rubber foot is attached to the floor by a screw that is located underneath. The drawing shows the correct way to get that rubber foot off is to remove the 4 screws that hold the entire foot petal-Brake pedal assembly to the chassis. This also requires disconnecting the brake linkage and the throttle linkage.

Can someone confirm this before I waste a lot of time.

Sorry,... here is a link to that pdf file.

http://www.buggiesunlimited.com/golf...KIT%201007.pdf
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Unread 10-06-2011, 11:53 AM   #35
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OK,..Originally when I started this post I was asking for information about the wiring diagrams for the Club Car light kit and bucket harness. As I mentioned the wiring for the bucket harness (Club Car original) is included in the CC Illustrated parts catalog. I have located all of the necessary wiring diagrams for just about any version of wiring you would ever use and most of them are found that the Buggiesunlimited web site. They even have the diagrams in color with the correct wire colors and physical description. Now the problem comes from information overload. I think I have it figured out since 5 different web sites sell 5 different light kits, and there are just as many Turn Signal kits and Brake light kits. To make it worse,.. I'm building a combination of 3 different ones. Yes... I deserve what I'm getting. I hope by the end of the day this Comedy will be over.
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Unread 10-11-2011, 12:50 AM   #36
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OK,..The kit is installed and wired with the Turn signal switch and everything works,... believe it or not! Just for a quick review, I got a light kit that came with a full Bucket harness since my 2008 cart does not have it. This did not come with any brake kit or any turn Signal kit so I ordered the Turn Signal Switch on eBay. I bought the switch from a local Club Car dealer and he gave me a great price on the CC decal.

The basic light kit comes with the headlights with halogen bulbs and it includes amber turn lights and two rear tail lights that contain running lights, turn lights, and brake light. The basic harness comes with a 9 pin connector to mate with THEIR version of Turn Signal Switch, a short pigtail wiring that drops down to the front headlight asm, and a 12 pin connector to mate with the Bucket harness which connects to everything needed in the bucket and both tail lights.

Everything should have been very simple to hook up but my problem was the Turn Signal switch came with totally different color wiring than the 4 wiring diagrams I was able to find on the net. Never did get any wiring assistance from the dealer. So I basically had to manually trace, and hot test each wire until I created my own correct wiring diagram.

Since I did not purchase a Brake Kit, I had to build my own. I tried to follow several others but all of them used the Brake light timer which is expensive and leaves the brake lights on for 30 seconds before the delay turns them off. I had this on my old Yamaha and I hated it so I was not going to buy another one. No mater where I ever went at our Golf club, or who I played golf with, everytime I stopped someone would "Yell at me" ---"Hey--You left you lights on". I found a set of brake light instructions from Buggies Unlimited that just used two switches in series, one for the brake switch and the other for the park switch. Their mounting location must have been for some earlier Club car because the holes and brackets they used would never work on my cart. So I had to make my own braket out of metal and drill and tap holes in the Park petal and make it adjustable so it would work right.

I learned a lot about taking things apart on this cart just to get at the wiring under the floor mat and to route the bucket harness under the floor to the dash. In one of my earlier notes I was asking about the +48 volt relay that was called for in these kit and I could not figure out why it was there. It turns out that the use a +48 volt relay, which is activated by wires built into the basic Club Car from the "ON" switch, to pass +12 volts to ALL the necessary light wiring. Basically the main switch has to be on for the light kit to work. Since I did not have a 48 volt relay, I just jumperd the two pass through contacts together. If I find a deal on a 48 volt relay I will install it.

Finally I want to thank all of those that provided help. I'm very happy to have all of this done. The real benefit is that now I know exactly how the whole thing works.
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Unread 10-11-2011, 07:21 AM   #37
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Unread 10-11-2011, 07:36 AM   #38
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trigger1937,

Thanks for the great explanation in regard to your install. If you posted detailed step-by-step instructions that would be extremely useful for a novice like me.

Pictures are being requested. They will solidify understanding further.

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Unread 10-11-2011, 01:10 PM   #39
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Sorry guys,... it is a little too late for "Pictures",..since I have it all buttoned up,..there is nothing to shoot. I don't really want to take it apart just to shoot pictures. But I can create a simplified wiring diagram that will go along with the basic wiring diagram that is supplied in the Illustrated Parts Catalog for the Club Car 2008. It will have to wait a few days as I am sooooo far behind in all the stuff I was supposed to do because I spent so much time working on that %*#@&%$## cart,...as my wife would say.
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Sorry guys,... it is a little too late for "Pictures",..since I have it all buttoned up,..there is nothing to shoot. I don't really want to take it apart just to shoot pictures. But I can create a simplified wiring diagram that will go along with the basic wiring diagram that is supplied in the Illustrated Parts Catalog for the Club Car 2008. It will have to wait a few days as I am sooooo far behind in all the stuff I was supposed to do because I spent so much time working on that %*#@&%$## cart,...as my wife would say.
trigger1937,

Dang!! I sure was hoping to see pictures; however, when you get the time the simplified wiring diagram you referenced would be great. Thanks!!

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