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Unread 10-25-2011, 11:38 AM   #41
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Insert "WOW" comment here- Bruce, I am employed by our local Electric Utility Company, we use plenty of wire, all sizes, shapes, colors, very little of it is absolutely useful to the Golf Cart community, but some may be I can give you that, but any time the wire jacket is compromised the whole wire has to be replaced not repaired. I does not matter how much shrink, tape, insulation you put on it it has been compromised. I would not use your procedure. My 2 cents.
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Unread 10-25-2011, 11:55 AM   #42
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Bruce, I'm pretty sure the part about removing the insulation and installing it again covers the qualifications required for critiquing your procedure. I/we cannot recommend this simply from a safety standpoint. I know it, you know it. Or at least you should with fifty years in the trade.
ok scotty will photo and also send it this weekend........

I will say that unless anyone is a strick do-it-your-selfer..scotty make the best wires and you should contact him

GORNOMAN---- I partically agree with you . My speciality is electrical circuitry in hi-water splash areas utalizing 208-480volt 3-phase...so only 48 volts is not much of a worry concerning insulation breakdown.

However, The acid gas environment of a battery compartment would definetly call for care in closing the insulation with Rubber electrical tape. And i guess for most people scotty's wires are a lot safer.

What scares me most is seeing the do-it-yourselfers in my campground hooking up lights and etc. with no fuses. OR they string the wires under the cart and pass thru drilled holes to the dash board and only then fuse.

Myself , I use a 450amp fuse (might be 400 amp) in my battery string.

In helping a few a the campground , word of mouth has made a few people come my way and before i do any work or help I INSIST they buy in line fuse holders no more than 4" from any battery connection.

Wow..i'm getting windy...this next one is a great story. One camper decieded not to leave his charge exposed to the elements...so he placed it in a styrofoam container with a lid on and left his cart on charge...The lid blew off in the last hurricane and the charger was found submerged in water. poor guy...should have left his cart in "TOW"
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Could I suggest a length of marine-grade heat shrink tubing, instead of wrapping the stripped off insulation in tape?

This tubing has heat-activated epoxy inside it, to hermetically seal the stripped off wire. It's at least as good as the heat-shrink all of the high-end cables appear to use to cover the joint between the lug and the wire.

It seems that everyone is upset about the use of run-of-the-mill wiring. Hey, if it's free, I say go for it! There are plenty of people running around on 4 ga Autozone brand car battery cables, myself included. This seems at least a bit better than that...

Personally, I was looking into using marine-grade 2 ga wire. Really nice stuff, but the price is prohibitive. So I will likely be making new cables out of welding cables, too. Seems like the most cost-effective solution.
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Could I suggest a length of marine-grade heat shrink tubing, instead of wrapping the stripped off insulation in tape?

This tubing has heat-activated epoxy inside it, to hermetically seal the stripped off wire. It's at least as good as the heat-shrink all of the high-end cables appear to use to cover the joint between the lug and the wire.

It seems that everyone is upset about the use of run-of-the-mill wiring. Hey, if it's free, I say go for it! There are plenty of people running around on 4 ga Autozone brand car battery cables, myself included. This seems at least a bit better than that...

Personally, I was looking into using marine-grade 2 ga wire. Really nice stuff, but the price is prohibitive. So I will likely be making new cables out of welding cables, too. Seems like the most cost-effective solution.

I appreciate the comments... i have the heat shrink with the heat activated sealant inside and the stuff is great ...
However, during the shrinking process the thickness increases about 5-6 times making the wire covering extremely stiff.

I have already tried re-closing the insulation. The rubber covered wire i have has a covering that is quite STRETCHABLE and it reclosed quite easily...
I intend to use rubber tape pulled tight to re-close. This way i will still retain the flexability of the origional wire covering.... P.S. the rubber tape is ALSO of a higher than normal quallity.....

Before you buy marine grade wires why don't you first check with "SCOTTYB" on this site and see what he can provide you with in the way of welding cable.

but before you buy any quanity of #2 cable better make sure it fits thru the hole in the OBC (scotty's does)
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Before you buy marine grade wires why don't you first check with "SCOTTYB" on this site and see what he can provide you with in the way of welding cable.
Marine grade wire is actually better than welding cable.
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Marine grade wire is actually better than welding cable.
Doug, is it better insulated?
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Doug, is it better insulated?
No, the insulation just has a jacket resistant to moisture, oil, chemicals, gasoline fuel and excellent abrasion resistance.
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@erict: Marine Grade wire is tinned . . . .
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@erict: Marine Grade wire is tinned . . . .
Yes, which has a higher corrosion resistance...... of course in a golf cart in a good neoprene jacketed cable with adhesive lined shrink wrap...... I'm not sure this will factor into performance or longevity but it will factor into the price per foot impressively.

Also for the record here, Good quality welding cable has a Neoprene jacket. This neoprene jacket is water, fuel, and acid resistant.

I hope this helps anyone out shopping for cable
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Tinned marine cable does cost more, it's around $1.59 a foot for 4ga cable, so 25 ft to do a cart would be around $40 plus lugs. Tinned, corrosion resistant lugs are are about $1 each so add another $24 for a DIY total of $64 for cable and lugs.
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