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Unread 03-01-2012, 09:46 PM   #111
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#16705 is not a Club Car number. It's a Lester number. Does your computer mount flush in an aluminum panel or does it mount on a 90 degree bracket hanging from the crossmember/body support? They made both style in 97. Let me know your mounting style and I'll provide you with a part number. How did you get 61.3 Volts if your charger isn't turning on? Did you bypass the relay and force it to turn on? The posts your checking voltage at must be at the end of the DC cord. That's not where I'm wanting you to check. Remove the cover of the charger, unplug the two SMALL wires from the relay. Plug charger into car, check power at the tips of the two wires you unplugged. If you get voltage, the OBC is communicating with the relay. If the relay isn't clicking when they're hooked up, you've got a bad relay. If you don't see voltage at these locations, you've got an OBC that is not communicating with the charger. I'm still not sold on the standalone charger deal. It's got a timer in the charger. It's not much different than what you've got. OBC vs Timer, virtually the same thing. It's either in the charger or in the cart. Either way, you've got to have one of the two.
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Unread 03-01-2012, 09:49 PM   #112
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OK can someone please tell me where to buy the OBC it looks like they run $250 or at least that is the lowest price I could find at that Price I think it would be better to completely replace this charging system with a integrated system and sell my charger instead of buying the OBC but what do I know maybe this is a great system that just breaks down a lot.
I can't tell you where to buy it. I'm not here to advertise, but there are plenty of sponsors that can help you. Like I mentioned above, find out which style you have and I'll let you know the proper part number. It's either going to be 101800606 or 101909901.

This is a great system that doesn't break down a lot. The OBC is a very durable component unless you blow it up. I replace very few.
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Unread 03-01-2012, 10:19 PM   #113
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The OBC in mounted on a Plate that mounts to the cross member the number 16705 is what is says on the OBC as far as the 61.3 Volt reading I am getting that is from the end on the Cord that plugs into the cart the Male end of the plug has 3 prongs reading between the to at the top the longer ones I get the 61.3 and reading from 1 long one and the short one I get the same this to me indicates that the Charger is putting out 61.3 Volts into the Cart but the charge indicate gage on the charger does not move the charger just hums. Then with the charger on and humming I can only get 49.5 Volts on the battery pack total Dave I know that you are not a fan of the stand alone chargers and that Lester make good equipment its just that almost every post I read that is about a charging issue with club cars it usually comes down to everyone saying its the OBC that needs replaced I might be nuts in thinking that if I need to replace it a smaller on board system would be better for several reason it would be a lot more easy to mount and they will tend the battery's and keep them charged like they should be mounting this charger in the rear bag well is about my only option and that is OK but this cart is going to be parked in a parking lot and my thinking is that seeing that Big charger will be a invite for someone to steal it and or the cart where as the smaller unit can be mounted in the place where the OBC is now out of sight just my thoughts. K C
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Unread 03-02-2012, 07:39 AM   #114
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If my Googleing is correct, then . . .


Lester 16705 is CC OEM 101800606 . . .

Lester #19190, 19190-88, 19190-90, 21065, 20370-10 are CC OEM 101909901.


What is confusing to me after reading thru the last several posts, it seems KC says charger won't turn on but then it is turning on because he is measuring voltage at DC plug. . . ??
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Unread 03-02-2012, 09:15 AM   #115
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Steve that is my thought also but the thing is the charging indicator gage needle etc... does not move it stays on 0 and the charger just hums. Before when it was charging the needle would jump up then go back to 0 then go up to 10 amps or so then slowly drop as it should and when it was charging the charger was not just humming it was noisy. This charging system has been a problem from the first I am a Newbie to Golf Carts bought this 1 because I knew where it came from and it is great shape with them saying everything worked great I take it 250 miles to home and find that the Charger won't shut off I called them and oh I forgot you had to use a timer on the charger because it won't shut off Dave and a couple of others have been trying to help and with out them and this forum I would be lost I have been looking and there is not much for help centers I have called and all I get is well bring it in I just want to tell everyone how great they have been I really do appreciate it even though I vent and rant sometimes its my nature I used to get mad/get drunk then get over it I take 14 morphine pills a day getting drunk is not a option! KC
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Unread 03-02-2012, 09:34 AM   #116
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Read my post here to see if it makes any sense to you . . it may tell you if your charger is bad or if OBC is bad . . hopefully your charger looks similar to one in picture:

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Unread 03-02-2012, 09:48 AM   #117
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Steve if you got lucky and just had a bad Breaker that is great. Mine on the other hand already has the breaker by passed jumped out when I got it I still need to replace it but the charger is getting Voltage I still need to get out to the shop and do the Test Dave wants me to try and I am going right now LOL
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Unread 03-02-2012, 10:04 AM   #118
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It's just a thought here WKC but, 99% of the time when any charger won't shut off the battery pack has not reached the preset shut off voltage..... this means 1 or more batteries are bad. I suspect one of the 6 or 7 yr old batteries you have. My advice:
Test the batteries and be sure we are working with a good pack. Charger shut off voltage may be set as high as 63.5 volts. Note that amp meter readings may be slightly off and the amp meter in the charger is a replaceable unit if needed.
Go back to the beginning of this thread and re read Davids initial responses. He gives simple correct instruction for how to do what you started out trying to do here. 11 pages ago.
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Unread 03-02-2012, 10:31 AM   #119
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Again not to be repeating my self if you read some of my last post I pointed that out to Dave I already know that the Battery pack is Not Good if you read what I did to try to revive the battery's with the salt and distilled water you would know #1 that it did work #2 I intend on buying new battery's just not at this time #3 The Last time I charged them the Charger DID shut off so yes I am right back to the start I just Don't understand why at first it comes do to that there is nothing wrong with the charger just replace the battery's and the charger will see the 581/2 volts and shut off }Shutting off is why I started this in the first place} so then I get the Battery's to take a charge and the charger shuts off correctly And now that it won't turn on its back to looking at the OBC I feel like a Dog chasing his tail LOL Scott I will be calling you if this last thing I am going to look at does not help you have a Charger listed for sale that I might be interested in or at least some talk about what will be the best conversion or repair I do not know if you sell the OBC or not? Thanks for the advice all I have a Idea that has not been tried yet for giggles I took the CHARGER for the ride yesterday to see if it would hold up I need to take it apart and check all connections I just did not think to do it yet. Going NOW!!!! K C
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Unread 03-02-2012, 11:17 AM   #120
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Ok first I must say that I am sorry for not doing MY Job in the first place so there I am sorry. I spent 18 years as a Maintenance MGR but the last 14 or so I sment most of my time in a Conferance Room getting yelled at etc.. and depended onbmy Maintennace Tecs to tell me the issue and I would make a decision and I guess I was treating you guys the same shame on me enough said.
I forgot the basic rule of Maintenance you know KISS {keep it simple stupid} that 1 after I took off the case I discovered that the JUMP that had been made to bypass the Circut Breaker was kinda loose the wires just fell out when I touched them so I used a fused line and made the connections {soldered the crimp on cannections} and its a miracle the charger is doing its thing what I don't understand is how I was getting 61.5 Volts from the male end?? It works and that is all that matters.
Ok now on with the Rebuild and hard wiring. K C
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