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Unread 02-15-2012, 01:20 PM   #41
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I have been looking at Batteries and here is what I have found Auto Zone $130 Advance Auto $130 NAPA $130 I have been told that Trojon are the best but why are the best I have found that I am safer buying things local so if I have issues etc... and a National Chain has Stores close to my sisters location thebottom line is do I have to replace all of them or the 3 that are below 8 Volts where do I go from here this project is not a rush or anything like that because I will test and retest this thing before giving it to her so if there is a cost savings to be had by waiting untill spring or if they put them on sale etc.. I sure would like to know If this charger issue is put to bed and I can mount this charger in the cart I can proceed on with finding seat belts turn signal switch and a horn and of course Paint it being new to this subject is there a wholesale place to buy parts from other than E-Bay I have looked at Buggies Unlimited E-Bay is cheaper than them is there some place else? K C
You shouldn't be looking for batteries yet. You may not need them. I'm trying to help you get to the bottom of this. However, the prices you list for 8 Volt batteries are absolutely ridiculous. I can't tell you where to buy batteries from, but please shop around. Find a cart shop and look there. We sell 8V batteries for $110.00

As for other parts, there are plenty of sponsors on this site that can help you out with anything you might want.
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Unread 02-15-2012, 01:21 PM   #42
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Dave I am going out and remove the 3 batteries that are not at 8 volts and I am going to drain them into a Plastic tub flush them out then refill them 1/2 way and use the salt and distilled water trick to see if they will take a full charge if not then I guess I am going to have to purchase 3 new ones Do you have any experance with Sams Club Batteries?

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I'm still on step 2 and you're jumping all the way to step 12..... Slow down bud... There's no need to do that... Just answer my questions and I'll give you the following step until this is resolved... ONE post at a time
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Unread 02-15-2012, 01:24 PM   #43
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No I guess I did not explain my self correctly I did as you told me to Pluged in the charger and waited untill it dropped below 5 on the charger then I took a reading from the first NEG and the Last POS term and got 48 volts with the charger running at about 3 amps
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Unread 02-15-2012, 01:28 PM   #44
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Am I not testing it correctly if I test 1 battery I get 8 volts 2=16 3=24 etc and with the 3 batteries that don't read 8 volts in the mix I am sot sure where it should be but if I just do some simple math and remove the 3 volts I would think that it would be 45 volts but like I said I am getting 48 with the charger running.
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Unread 02-15-2012, 01:32 PM   #45
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Am I not testing it correctly if I test 1 battery I get 8 volts 2=16 3=24 etc and with the 3 batteries that don't read 8 volts in the mix I am sot sure where it should be but if I just do some simple math and remove the 3 volts I would think that it would be 45 volts but like I said I am getting 48 with the charger running.
There's only 2 things that will make the charger run at 3 amps... Either it's almost graveyard dead and barely able to turn the charger relay on, or it's almost finished with the charge cycle and ready to turn itself off. It sounds to me like it's the first with you.... The cart doesn't run does it?
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Dave we are having a communcation issue here I told you that I compleatly charged the cart on monday and it has not been used so of course the batteries are almost fully charged the only thing that I have done to draw them down was to load test them this am. Then I pluged the charger in like you requested to run the other test today and then this last time so it is not going to do much charging and wants to shut off that is whay I told you that 3 battery's are load testing at 8 volts and 3 are at 7-7.5 volts I wish I could just speak with you it would be a lot easier for 1 my hands both go numb when I type because pof pinched nerves so I don't put down all of the information correctly I guess then there is the issue that I think 1 thing and say some thing different but mostly I think we are saying the same thing or thinking the same just saying it different maybe heck I don't know K C
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Unread 02-15-2012, 03:06 PM   #47
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David this is where I am at on this. # 1 the Cart is completely charged that was done Sunday Night to test the Charger as you told me to do.
#2 Today I load tested the Battery's and found 3 that held 8 Volts and 2 that held 7 Volts and 1 that held 7.5 Volts and by held I mean I put a 10 AMP load on each 1 for 5 minutes and they did not draw down.
#3 I then did as you told me and put the charger back on and waited until it fell below 5 and tested the Voltage on the Battery's with the charger running and I got 48 Volts

This is after I answered your question about the F/R switch and the charger clicking after 7-8 seconds I am doing as you asked the battery's need cleaned and the cables are corroded this is not something I need told to do it needs done as far as looking at Battery prices I can't help it. I need to know what it will cost to replace them if required making this street legal and safe for her is my #1 priority so if this charger is ok and working correctly then I can start thinking about how it will be mounted in the Cart and figuring out my list of materials etc.. it is 35 miles to Louisville Ky and if I need to buy Battery's at Sam’s and get some other parts at the same time fuel cost a lot. This is not the only thing I have going on I have a 00 Expedition to repair a 00 dodge Ram and a 04 Explorer that all need parts I would like to be able to pick it all up at the same time. If I am jumping ahead of you I am sorry! Like I told it really is nice of you to help me out with this and like you already told me the Charger seems to work correctly it is the Battery's I think but I am waiting for your opinion on this before I go forward with getting battery's. I think it is worth trying to refresh them with the Epsom Salt and Distilled water after dumping, flushing and refilling them they might take a full charge then if not well I tried to save them but will end up buying new if they won't charge and right now they are not fully charged and wont charge further than 7 volts so something needs done the other 3 will fully charge and are fully charged. If I stepped out of line I am sorry I don't mean to get ahead of you it’s just the way I am my mind goes 50 ways at 1 time always has Please accept my apology if I have upset you it is not my intention to do so.
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Unread 02-15-2012, 03:30 PM   #48
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David I tested it again and found out that I was not on the first Ground the wires run under the battery's and I thought I had it but here is the results Drum Roll I got 55 Volts on my meter so if you take in account the 3 batteries that test 7 volts that makes 58 I don't have a digital meter so usiing a old fashon 1 it comes out really to 58.5 because 1 of the battery's test at 7.5 Volts so that gives us the min of 58.5 that you said I needed so now where am I? Looking at the Battery's I think but I wil wait for your opinion before doing anything else Thank God I double checked myself and followed the leads backwards this time.
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Unread 02-15-2012, 03:31 PM   #49
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You haven't upset me. I just don't understand why you're not getting a charger output if the gauge on the charger is registering. I've never seen that in my life. If you've got 48 Volts in the pack it should increase once the charger is plugged in. If the gauge on the charger is registering, it means that it's sensing battery voltage and charging them. If it's not rising the batteries must be completely shot. BUT, if they were you'd be dropping out bad on the load test, but you're not. I'm at a loss for this one at the moment. I wish I could see it and actually work on it myself.
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Unread 02-15-2012, 03:35 PM   #50
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daivd, ok if his charger is plugged in and charging and its at 58 volts but charger won,t shut off ( and charger isn,t bypassed inside ) than its OBC right? ok i,m done i don,t want to confuse you on this its confusing enough..................................
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