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Unread 02-18-2012, 12:08 PM   #71
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AFTER CHARGING FOR 20 HOURS IT STILL SHOWS 55 VOLTS AND THE CHARGER DID NOT SHUT OFF IT IS STILL CHARGING AT 5 so the bottom line on the battery saving solution of Salt and Distilled water is in and at best it will make the battery's work better I did get to drive up hills and for about 1 hr but in the end each battery tested out 3 were just at 9.5 Volts and the other 3 were 8.5 and 7.5's and they just won't take a full charge my dash gage is still flashing beteween the 1 and 2 bar's I did find NEW TROJAN 8 volt Battery's for $107 each and will be picking some up in 2 weeks or so then I will be able to get the Full answer about the Charger but in the mean time I will start taking it apart so I can coat the frame and rebuild anything that needs attention before Putting on a freash coat of Yellow and installing the turn signals etc... K C
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Unread 02-18-2012, 01:34 PM   #72
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just so you know your batteries not taking a full charge has nothing to do with the charger not shutting off............your charger should shut off wether your batteries are charged or not so although new batteries are going to do nothing but help they arn,t going to solve the issue of charger not shutting off.........there is either a problem with the charger or the OBC which is still going to have to be addressed after you install the new batteries or you can ruin the new batteries.................................
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Unread 02-18-2012, 05:33 PM   #73
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Oh now I am not sure what to think Dave told me that the charger would not shut off if it did not see 581/2 volts not that it would shut down reguardless I am back to where I started then and don't know anything more about my charger than when i started this if I need to replace the on board system that is real costly and I might as well eplace the whole charging system with 1 that is selfcontained and not part charger and part cart this is getting way out of hand
the battery should read at least 91/2 Volts so they are bad but this charger thing is really starting to P$$$ me off.

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Unread 02-18-2012, 07:39 PM   #74
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yes your charger should see that voltage david is right but if it sees that voltage lets say in 5 hours charger will shut off......the system is made so no matter what voltage the charger sees it shuts off at 16 hours......regardless of whats going on so if everything is working as it should the charger should never stay on longer than 16 hours and if it does theres a problem either in cart or charger and this is with any conditiopn batteries.......if david reads this he,ll confirm it and if for some reason i,m misunderstanding this i do apoligize...........................but i don,t think i am.
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if this is true then I was correct in my oringial post asking if this is a automatic charger because it won't shut off period. I have let it go for 20 hours 2 times and it still is running so there has to be a issue with it and or the cart but either way I will have to spend a lot of money again! I will have to replace this charging system if they are this problem prone and have to be repaired often. what is the best choice for a on board self contained charger? Because I think this type of system sucks part of it is in the cart and part the charger come on they have been making total self contained chargers for years that not only charge but maintain your battery's for long period of times when they sence a voltage drop they kick on and charge it back to normal and then just idle. K C
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yes if you read your 1st post and my response to you i have been trying to tell you that................................
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MAX TIMER is a feature a lot of OBCs carry... However, with a lot of earlier OBCs such as his 1997 it may not function this way. I'm still staying firm in my claim that new batteries will be the answer. With new batteries you won't need MAX TIMER to cut your charger off. Full voltage will turn it off before MAX TIMER is even thought of..
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ok i understand what your saying now as long as they hit max voltage even if the charger or OBC is faulty there hitting the voltage # cancels that out.................
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ok i understand what your saying now as long as they hit max voltage even if the charger or OBC is faulty there hitting the voltage # cancels that out.................
That's the right idea, but OBCs can be "Faulty" in SEVERAL different ways. His MAX TIMER function isn't working. That doesn't mean everything else doesn't work perfectly fine. If his voltage problem is corrected, he won't need to worry about MAX TIMER because the car will be charged before it'll need to time out.
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Ok I am getting 2 answers #1 Dave you said that you thought that my charger and cart were fine and it was just the Battery's. Now you are agreeing with Tom that it could be the Max Time function on the Cart part of this charger correct! I am guessing that what you are calling the OBC is the part on this charging system on the cart correct? #2 Dave you say that for my 97 cart you don't know if it has a Max Time function? But now you both agree that when I replace my Battery's that the Charging System will see the 581/2 Volts and shut of as it should correct. I will get the new Battery's picked up in a few weeks and then I will Start a new Post. If for nothing else just to confirm that it works as it should.

Before I forget I pulled out the Battery uneage bar gage and first off I found that it was not connected beteween the 1st - and the Last + so I moved it and then I do get 48 volt reading beteween the 2 top post on it there is a pinkish wire{ I am color blind} on the bottom side of it were there are 2 spades 1 has current & 1 does not the 3rd wire pink 1 is on the spade with current my question is this why does this gage not work correctly? Dave I know you said it was because the charger is not seeing 581/2 Volts and resetting. And I guess that I am stupid because if this gage just measures the Voltage drop when the Battery's are discharging shouldent it work anyway and read the 48 volts I tried to follow the red line and it appears to go to the black box that is mounted behind the Battery's what is this box? And what does it do? And what is the Pink wire for? If it is tied into the OBC then is that box the OBC? The useage monitor just flashes beteween #1&2 bars and so when I put in the new battery's it will work correctly as Dave said I hope. I see this gage as being REAL IMPORTANT so she can see where her battery's are at I have to tell her that they can't get below 50% or she might not get home for 1 and 2 it is hard on the battery pack. I see this type of gage for sale and they don't come with a bunch of suff it looks like they just hook to the battery pack and if so could this 1 not be connected that way? I know too many questions but I would like to know I don't think this gage came from Club Car because it is mounted in the middle of the instruction's on the dash. K C

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