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Unread 07-28-2008, 08:44 AM   #11
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Each solenoid and coil is a speed (or a gear if you will). Starting at the driver side solenoig #1 is the master. It has no coil. It is the SWITCH to turn power on & off for all the other solenoids. With the cart on jacks...If you don't hear (or feel) 5 clicks you are missing a gear. Determine which solenoid is not functioning and determine if in fact it being energized at the right time.
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Unread 07-28-2008, 09:01 AM   #12
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Each solenoid and coil is a speed (or a gear if you will). Starting at the driver side solenoig #1 is the master. It has no coil. It is the SWITCH to turn power on & off for all the other solenoids. With the cart on jacks...If you don't hear (or feel) 5 clicks you are missing a gear. Determine which solenoid is not functioning and determine if in fact it being energized at the right time.

Excellent thanks!
I'll put it on jacks later this morning

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Unread 07-28-2008, 09:32 AM   #13
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You should be hearing five clicks. I verified my solenoids were working, removed the bus bar and pushed the accelerator carefully to engage each one. I had replaced the fourth solenoid with a new one already. The first two measured 3 ohms across the contacts (don't know if this is my main problem now), and all the others including the new one measured 0.5 ohms.

Verified solenoids were open when not engaged.

I don't know what else to test to verify the issue. Measured for continuity across the motor A1 A2 / F1 and F2 as labled by tags on the wiring. Another link on the web said if you got continuity then the brushes were good.
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Unread 07-28-2008, 09:58 AM   #14
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I've had something similar and found it to be bad connections on speed resistors. Disconnect the motor lead from the final resisto and put an ohmmeter across all of them then cycle the controls. As the solenoids pull in thee should be a drop in resistance, old solenoids can really bugger up your day. Happy hunting and welcome to the forum.
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Unread 07-30-2008, 09:40 AM   #15
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Thank you ogre'sdad.

Although I had checked each solenoid for the contact closing I did not check to see if the resistor network values changed. I did measure higher than normal resistace on the first two solenoids - this should have been a red flag. Prefroming the resistance change test as suggested showed there was a problem, maybe a bad resistor wire contact. Unfortunatey when removing the resistor network to clean the connections the terminal on the third solenoid broke off. This may have been cracked before or just broke off under the stress of removing the bolt. In any case I am now replacing all the solenoids, then seeing what I have.

I suspect the issue is still in the motor, but it is clear now the solenoids in this old of machine should be replaced.
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Unread 07-30-2008, 09:52 AM   #16
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That seems to be a really good start. Have you run the motor on 12 volts to see if accutally turns well? To do this you have to jump A3 to S1 and apply 12 volts to A1 and S2. Your motor shoul run in one direction and the other by reversing the polarity. Don't run it too long as it will draw hard on a 12 volt battery. just remember Murphys' law... if it can go wrong, it will, followed by O'Birens law," Murphy was an optimist".
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WHOOPS i MEANT TO SAY A2 TO S1. If you have an A3 your on your own
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Unread 07-30-2008, 10:58 AM   #18
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No have not tried it, it will be next after the solenoids. Thanks
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Unread 07-30-2008, 07:41 PM   #19
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After the 5 solenoids check the 5 corresponding microswitches in the accelerator speed control box. Located under the driver seat and attached to the frame by 2 small long bolts.
90% of these old carts run after these two steps.
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Unread 08-05-2008, 08:38 AM   #20
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Well I replaced all the solenoids, which was needed but I did not think was the reason for the complete inoperation. I was right. Car still does not move.
I ordered a Club Car repair manual and now going by those troubleshooting procedures. In doing the the repair manual motor test (I did not run the motor at 12V yet, I should have but did not yet). The motor test failed the armature test showing an open. The manual states that if you have an open it is one of two things, bad brushes or an open armature winding. (doubt an open armature)

I pulled out the brushes, they are badly worn, manual says to replace after they are down to 0.51 inches. The brushes measure 0.58 inches. Two Questions for the group:

1. Should the motor run with 0.58 inch brushes?

2. Guy I got the cart from claimed he replaced the brushes. Is it possible for the brushes (over 1 inch new) to be worn down to 0.58 inches in a months time with limited usage?

Cannot inspect the commutator surface well since motor still in cart, but from what I was able to observe, looks OK.

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