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Unread 02-25-2013, 03:09 PM   #31
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Ther is no linkage, it is a solid piece of metal like a srewdriver attached the pedal that sticks in the MCOR that turns a throttle mechanism, not teally anything there will be play with, pretty solid setup, not like the older ds setups.
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Unread 02-25-2013, 03:35 PM   #32
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7Club,
You need to talk to PQ or others and ask about motor options. The executioner is not a very torquey motor. Prolly has about 20% more torque than stock. It's great down her in FL where it's flat and the only hills are overpasses. You may be better off with a high speed/torque motor if the hills are your concern. Although, you will lose top speed You have to decide what you need (speed or torque), as you can't really have it both ways . I would hate to see you burn it up on those hills with a loaded cart.
Hey 7club, you are in the hills a little right? What do you use the cart for, golfing at the county club hopefully. I heard thats a pretty nice course just never played there.

Anyway, I am using a GE speed and torque motor, and Advance Motors makes the same one, it is rated at 7hp at 5106 rpms, my cart tops out at 25 with 20 inch tires.
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Unread 02-25-2013, 07:02 PM   #33
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Why don't you return the controller or at least exchange it for another one ???

You should not be unhappy with your purchase 700 is a lot of money to just flush down the toilet.
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Unread 02-26-2013, 01:30 AM   #34
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I don't think it's a matter of returning it but of finishing the job and realizing that my expectations came from not understanding how carts work entirely. I'm happy with the torque, just expected more speed (3mph gain). Didn't get the speed but when the new motor goes in, the controller will be worth the expense. It's a package thing. I didn't fully realize that to the extent I do now. No going back.

Speed, Yes it is pretty nice around here. Tons of places to cart besides the golf course. I use it to take the family down to the river for rock jumping and swimming which gets me into all kinds of sand and trails. We use it to cruise the neighborhood, go to Little League practice and games, make runs to the grocery store, etc. The community allows carts to be on the road just like cars as long as they are equipped with all of the safety equipment required. Pretty cool...

I did hook up the laptop today and foud that the throttle is in fact opening all the way to 100% so no need for a new throttle map. I adjusted the throttle down to 1 to reduce the braking and changed the throttle setting to Linear. Other than that it is working as advertized. I just need the high speed motor to finish the job. That'll be a while...

I appreciate all the help that's been given on this. Thanks to all who contributed!
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Unread 02-26-2013, 10:09 AM   #35
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OK so final result is you gained how much top speed and how much % torque (approximately)?
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Unread 02-26-2013, 02:26 PM   #36
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Why don't you return the controller or at least exchange it for another one ???

You should not be unhappy with your purchase 700 is a lot of money to just flush down the toilet.
If there are other issues with the cart, other than the controller, it won't do you any good any way. You could have a $10,000 controller and still be unhappy with the performance if there are other issues.

Everything needs to be thoroughly checked, including your battery voltages.

The chances of the controller being bad are unlikely.

Pick a route of travel, and use that route as your baseline. Then check each battery for starting volts and then the voltage as you drive that route. Compare each battery.

I had a similar experience with my cart.
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Unread 02-27-2013, 12:11 AM   #37
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Bottom line net gains are: If I gained 1 mph top speed or 2 mph more on hills, I'd be smiling but I think I pretty much got nothing out of the investment for speed. But I did gain a significant amount of torque. I think the estimate of 40% more torque given when I bought it is reasonable. It'll spin the tires (23's) in the garage floor enough to make them squeal in Fwd or Rev. No black marks but squealing. It jumps the front of the cart up HARD! and can spin those same tires in dirt or sand to leave a good 4' burnout of both tires.

When I get the motor we'll see what speed I can add to that torque! Then I'll be satisfied. Until then... save, save, save...
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Unread 02-27-2013, 12:38 AM   #38
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I added my 650 alltrax and was at first not impressed until I blew by another cart up a big grassy hill and he actually stalled out on..torque is fun but got me no additional speed. I put In my d&d es 81-series motor and went from 14mph to 28.6mph!! On stock tires!!
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Unread 02-27-2013, 02:28 PM   #39
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If you haven't hooked up your controller to a laptop, there is a ton of wasted potential. First, you can dial out the jerky takeoff with the software. Second, you need to install the file from alltrax that will allow the precedent to obtain 100% throttle. ( I believe it is ClubCar4.hex ) You will be able to monitor your throttle output with the software and see you are only getting about 96% (its a known issue). Turbo mode only turns on at 100% throttle, and then you will see speeds of around 28mph. I had an 06 with the Alltrax and 23" tires....my install sounded just like yours until I hooked up the programer to a laptop and played around....tweak it to your liking. Once you get your cable, and download the software to a computer you can hook to your cart, call Alltrax and ask for the hex file that allows you to obtain 100% throttle.
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Unread 02-28-2013, 04:44 PM   #40
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Thanks DJ.

Unfortunately, I have hooked it up and verified that it IS getting 100% throttle. I did change the throttle curve to Linear. I prefer that. I reduced the braking to 1 and the throttle up to 4. It's pretty smooth off the line and I can spin the tires in the garage if I try but there are NO speed gains. I expect the motor with bring that.

I have built a new set of 2g welding wire cables for the cart and replaced my custom 4g set that I had built about 8 months ago. BTW, the 2g wire WILL pass through the OBC if you spray a little windex or something on it. No gain in performance from that upgrade as expected...

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