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Unread 04-11-2013, 08:59 PM   #1
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Default 98 cc ds

I picked up a new toy today.
98 CC 48 volt system.
Has new batteries, and is in good shape only problem is the thing doesn't run.
Its a series controller according to the wiring, but it has
What i believe to be an IQ/Regen motor. Part#101854501
Is there anyway to use this motor with this controller or do I need to toss this motor and get a series motor?

I am new to the modifications on carts. I have the manuals, but I don't think this set up will work.
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Unread 04-11-2013, 09:50 PM   #2
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Default Re: 98 cc ds

I believe I read a regen motor has 2wires coming off the back. A series cart has a forward and reverse lever where a regen has a rocker switch for the f/r. If you need a series motor I have a good one off a 2001.
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Unread 04-11-2013, 09:55 PM   #3
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Monepit,
It is definatly a Regen motor.
Has the speed sensor on the back.
Sent you a message.

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I believe I read a regen motor has 2wires coming off the back. A series cart has a forward and reverse lever where a regen has a rocker switch for the f/r. If you need a series motor I have a good one off a 2001.
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Unread 04-11-2013, 10:23 PM   #4
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I really do not see why the IQ or shunt wound motor would not run. The speed sensor goes to the controller in an IQ system but slapping that into a series system would just mean the speed sensor is not used. I am not saying this is a good option running a shunt wound motor but I still do not see why it would not run. The motor would not know if the speed sensor is hooked up or not. Just speculating.
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Unread 04-11-2013, 10:33 PM   #5
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I figured there was a lot of difference in the series winding resistance and the regen wound resistance, and didn't think the controller would work correctly. It sure isn't working right like it is.
It will just inch forward with the pedal to the floor.
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Unread 04-11-2013, 10:42 PM   #6
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Think about it though, the controller only feeds voltage/amps and the motor would not know the difference. Only difference is the IQ controller controls speed from the speed sensor and initiates regen braking. In a series cart regen and speed control are non existant with the shunt motor.
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Unread 04-11-2013, 10:50 PM   #7
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Yeah I see what you are saying.
But I can't find anything saying what terminals you would hook up to what. The series and Regen motors use different labels.
I may very well have a bad controller as well.
Also won't it hurt the motor if you don't have the run/tow switch to disconnect the motor?
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Unread 04-11-2013, 10:56 PM   #8
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I am far from an expert. Kind of new to this but learning a lot. When I had my high speed motor built the guy doing it said there is a pretty big difference between the two motors. He said be glad I have a series cart. So far I am. They seem less complicated.
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Unread 04-11-2013, 11:00 PM   #9
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There are 4 terminals on the motors no matter if shunt or series.
The controllers are a little different but the hook ups are the same. I am pretty sure the Alltrax site had some hook up schematics if you need them or do a search here. But are yu saying it was not already wired when you got the cart?

Whenever you are working on the cart disconnect the bat pack by disconnecting the main negstive terminal off the battery and preferrable the main positive as well. So the run tow switch would not matter.
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Unread 04-12-2013, 08:44 AM   #10
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Yes it was wired up. It just wouldn't move very fast. Just barely crept along and I mean like a foot in 20 seconds. And in reverse there was a high pitch whining coming from the controller.
I think the controller is bad. I have located a series motor to install.
I just can't find much way to really test the controller other than it works or it doesn't.
The solenoid is switching, but there is very little voltage out of the controller to the motor. Like 4 volts MAX. If I unhook the motor I have around 52 volts out of the controller when the pedal is pressed.
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