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Unread 09-06-2008, 01:17 PM   #1
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Ok, I got my answer about the year of my Club Car, now I have a couple OTHER questions about some extra parts I had laying around that I know don't go to this cart.

First, I have the rear end at the following link, and would like to know if anyone can identify it, and tell me what it might have come from, and what it might be worth (might just sell it so I can use the money for other projects), OR if it would be worth utilizing? I highly doubt it will handle the output of my 600cc motorcycle engine, so I don't think I'd use it there - http://www.sonicperfection.com/cartrearend/

The second is another rear end that I believe is a ford 8.5". It came out of a cart that was used to push vehicles around at a salvage yard or something, but I don't know what kind of cart, etc.. I imagine it would be a good choice for a project that needs a stout rear end, IF I can find a way to link up to it for my gas engine project. However, the spring perches won't fit my club car (club car is 26" center to center on springs, and the rear end has a 23" center to center perch width). Any ideas of what it came out of, and what it's worth? - http://www.sonicperfection.com/OtherCartRearend/

Also, the motor that is on that second rear end, anyone able to tell what it is? I have more pics of just the motor at the following link - http://www.sonicperfection.com/Whatkindofmotoristhis/
I am pretty sure it is 36v. The stamped markings that I can SEE on the motor are as follows, and laid out sort of like this (I'm sure there was probably printed markings above each of these stamped markings, indicating what they are, but it is too faded to read anything.

5BC 49 JB 395 3000
3 36 82
60 MIN 40 B
SERIES 49 3122
FTN

It needs to have one post (A2 I think) repaired, because it landed on it when unloaded off my buddies flatbed towtruck, and bent the vented part of the casing and snapped off one of the little isolator pads that was between the post and the case. I'm hoping it is a functional motor (not sure how to test it without actually installing it into my cart, or running jumper wires from the cart to it), and might be more powerful than my stock Melex motor... Wishful thinking probably...

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Unread 09-06-2008, 01:37 PM   #2
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Default Re: Couple more questions

Probly a pump motor or forklift motor.... or something similar. They can be built pretty stout but it cost's lots of money. I would bet money IT IS MORE powerful than the stock melex motor. The melex is only a 2 horse...depending on the year.


The best I can tell from the pics, that looks to be a 9" ford rear, its hard to tell for sure. Can you get some better closeups of the rear and front carrier? You can move the spring perches real easy if you know a good welder/fabricator. You can even buy new spring perches to weld on.
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Unread 09-06-2008, 02:02 PM   #3
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I'm a welder/fabricator (hobbyist mostly, but used to rebuild salvage vehicles as well), so that part isn't a problem. Just debating if it is worth using that one or not. The gas project I want to do will probably end up with an ATV live axle for simplicity.

Is there an easy way to test that motor? Like can I just use a pair of jumper cables and run them from my battery pack on the melex, or maybe just a 12v battery, to the motor terminals, to see if it turns? I'd put it on stands before trying it, so it doesn't run me over in the process. lol

I just realized I probably should have put this thread in a different section, since it isn't "directly" related to the club car... If you all think it should be moved, please do so. I apologize for that.
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Unread 09-06-2008, 07:49 PM   #4
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A few more close-up pics of the rear end are at this link if you want to take a look and see if they tell you more - http://www.sonicperfection.com/rear/

I just assumed it was the 8.5 because I knew they were actually used in some utility carts, and I figured this was one of those, and not a custom. I wish it wasn't so dang bulky though. I don't know if it will even fit in either of my carts without doing some cutting.
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Unread 09-06-2008, 08:05 PM   #5
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Its not an 8.5. An 8.5 is a rear loader and is a GM product. Ford 6.75, 7.25, 7.7, 8.8 rear diffs are also rear loaders. Both a 9 inch and an 8 inch ford are front loaders.

The drain plug on the back throws a wrench in the 9 inch theory. I am almost 100% positive you have an 8 inch ford 1967 and up rear differential. You an verify this is you can get the casting number from the outside of case right above where the pinion goes in...kinda sorta. If there is a casting number there IT IS a ford 8" 67+.
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Unread 09-06-2008, 11:17 PM   #6
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I know one thing without a doubt, it's filthy and needs a power washing.... LOL

Maybe I was thinking 8", but I swore someone said 8.5" was in Mustang GT's or something.

I need to find all the bolts that hold the aluminum cover over the chain drive system too, and bolt that back together after I glob it with fresh grease. I think I'll power wash it, then lube it real good, and slap the cover on, and then see if I can't stuff it into one of the carts. I had hoped my Melex rear end would fit into the club car, but it's 27" on center, so 1" off, and it also has the motor mounted on the front of the differential, so it sits between the batteries, which won't work in the club car. So, I need to modify one of these other two rearends and fit them in it, and then maybe I'll temporarily hook up the electrics and run it that way while I plan out my build.
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Unread 09-06-2008, 11:41 PM   #7
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I was just poking around online on various performance car parts sites, and ebay, and found some 8 inch rear ends, and this definitely looks most like that. It has two dimples on the back, one at each side, and the filler plug that matches the 8".

So, I'd say that rear is plenty stout, as I figured it would be. The problem is how to mate a 600cc chain drive motorcycle engine to it and make it all work... I could turn the engine sideways I guess, but it would have to sort of straddle one axle tube and the diff to line up with a sprocket on the input shaft, and turn the right way. It's that or I buy/build some kind of gear box that mounts to the input shaft and converts to a sprocket at the side... Hmmm....

Lots to ponder...

Thanks for the input and help with things roady89.

Any thoughts on the other rear end? I'm sure it's nowhere near as solid as this narrowed 8", but I'm curious what it might belong to, so maybe I can put it up for sale to fund the projects. Or any input on an easy way to test that motor? I was thinking about trying to connect a couple 12v car batteries in series and use some jumper cables to try to power it. I guess I need to look at more diagrams to see what each terminal is, and how that would work first.
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Unread 09-06-2008, 11:43 PM   #8
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In the first link, it appears to be a Cushman rear end.
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Unread 09-07-2008, 08:40 AM   #9
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The motor on the 8" looks to be a great starting point for an EV. Take a look at High Torque Electric, specifically HT's picture gallery. I think there is a motor in there the same or similar he builds.
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Unread 09-07-2008, 01:31 PM   #10
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You know, I sold a Fiero to a guy planning to build an electric car with it, as a project he and his son could do together, and I am starting to regret doing so. I think it would have been ideal for a small EV. I considered using my 1984 BMW 318i, but I ended up selling that as well. Now I have no small/lightweight vehicles left really, other than an old Dodge Omni, which I suppose could work. It is a manual trans too, so it should be fairly easy to mate to, and just leave it in 2nd or 3rd. hmm.....

/me says to himself - No, stop thinking about this stuff, you can't afford to... :)
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