Range Reduction with PQ motor ?

mutau95 · 07-08-2013, 10:09 PM

Trying to decide between Bandit or Executioner motor swap on my Precedent. May upgrade the controller and wires later down the road but looking to do a motor swap for now. My question is how much range reduction will I see with either one?

buckmanmike · 07-09-2013, 01:14 AM

PQ should be able to give you the best advice.

sportcoupe · 07-09-2013, 04:01 AM

Normally people upgrade cables first, then controller and finally motor. Doing a high performance motor first with stock cables and controller may result in disappointing performance.

cmalberto · 07-09-2013, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mutau95

...My question is how much range reduction will I see with either one?

That's a question many(including me) would like to know as well. If you call PQ, please post what you hear. Thanks.

anix · 07-09-2013, 11:33 AM

I already had #4 cables,22" tires and stock 220A controller on mine when I did the swap to the executioner motor. Went from 15MPH with the regen unplugged to 27 but lost a little low end torque. No high temps anywhere. I think I would at least upgrade the wires while you are at it. With the controller upgrade I can get 31/32 out of it. And it will pull stumps.

nobogez42 · 07-09-2013, 11:44 AM

I upgraded my to a PQ Bandit on my '07 Precedent. Everything else stock. Speeds went to 24mph. I have since upgraded cables (2ga), batteries (6-8v conversion), 20.5 inch tires and 3 inch lift. I now get 26mph on flat surface. I thought about a controller upgrade, but really don't see the advantage. I am happy with what I have now and can not see any noticeable difference in range from my complete stock setup.

mutau95 · 07-09-2013, 11:54 AM

That's good info. Have you noticed a decrease in range....if so by how much? The cables I would likely do also when doing the motor. I'm just not ready to drop 1k plus into a motor and controller if I can get by with the motor for now.

I've tried plum quick and once I get a response I will post it.

mutau95 · 07-09-2013, 12:13 PM

Nobovez42 that is pretty good with the bandit motor and cables. 26mph is moving pretty good especially if I could do that with my family onboard.

anix · 07-09-2013, 12:18 PM

The Bandit and the cable are most likely the most bang for the buck. After that a little gains in speed and torque will start to get costly. Oh, be sure you check everything that could cause drag. Dragging brakes and under inflated tires are a killer.

nobogez42 · 07-09-2013, 12:21 PM

Attached is a trip data log from an app on my phone. Notice I did 5.77 miles with a top speed of over 27mph. I had about 90% battery left after the trip

07-08-2013, 10:09 PM	#1
mutau95 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 33	Range Reduction with PQ motor ? Trying to decide between Bandit or Executioner motor swap on my Precedent. May upgrade the controller and wires later down the road but looking to do a motor swap for now. My question is how much range reduction will I see with either one?
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07-09-2013, 01:14 AM	#2
buckmanmike Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Snellville, Ga. Posts: 1,304	Re: Range Reduction with PQ motor ? PQ should be able to give you the best advice.

07-09-2013, 04:01 AM	#3
sportcoupe Gone Wild Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 2,760	Re: Range Reduction with PQ motor ? Normally people upgrade cables first, then controller and finally motor. Doing a high performance motor first with stock cables and controller may result in disappointing performance.

07-09-2013, 11:33 AM	#5
anix Getting Wild Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 148	Re: Range Reduction with PQ motor ? I already had #4 cables,22" tires and stock 220A controller on mine when I did the swap to the executioner motor. Went from 15MPH with the regen unplugged to 27 but lost a little low end torque. No high temps anywhere. I think I would at least upgrade the wires while you are at it. With the controller upgrade I can get 31/32 out of it. And it will pull stumps.
anix Getting Wild Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 148

07-09-2013, 11:44 AM	#6
nobogez42 Gone Wild Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cullman, AL/Destin, FL Posts: 268	Re: Range Reduction with PQ motor ? I upgraded my to a PQ Bandit on my '07 Precedent. Everything else stock. Speeds went to 24mph. I have since upgraded cables (2ga), batteries (6-8v conversion), 20.5 inch tires and 3 inch lift. I now get 26mph on flat surface. I thought about a controller upgrade, but really don't see the advantage. I am happy with what I have now and can not see any noticeable difference in range from my complete stock setup.

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07-09-2013, 11:54 AM	#7
mutau95 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 33	Re: Range Reduction with PQ motor ? That's good info. Have you noticed a decrease in range....if so by how much? The cables I would likely do also when doing the motor. I'm just not ready to drop 1k plus into a motor and controller if I can get by with the motor for now. I've tried plum quick and once I get a response I will post it.
mutau95 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 33

07-09-2013, 12:13 PM	#8
mutau95 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 33	Re: Range Reduction with PQ motor ? Nobovez42 that is pretty good with the bandit motor and cables. 26mph is moving pretty good especially if I could do that with my family onboard.
mutau95 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 33

07-09-2013, 12:18 PM	#9
anix Getting Wild Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 148	Re: Range Reduction with PQ motor ? The Bandit and the cable are most likely the most bang for the buck. After that a little gains in speed and torque will start to get costly. Oh, be sure you check everything that could cause drag. Dragging brakes and under inflated tires are a killer.
anix Getting Wild Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 148

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