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Unread 05-26-2014, 09:52 PM   #21
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If your front end is out of wack after a crash, something is bent. Find what is bent and get it straightened and then do a wheel alignment. Toe out is dangerous and unstable.
I agree. Been racing circle track for a long while and know that a toe problem is usually a symptom of something else wrong. Just looking at my cart, I can't see any obvious problem. Nothing looks bent or shifted. Anybody with experience with this, please post advise.
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Unread 05-26-2014, 10:36 PM   #22
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check front spring it may need to be re-centered
check camber and toe in
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Unread 05-27-2014, 07:24 AM   #23
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Ok i opened all caps and found that all of them but 2 were full. The 2 ones were fully emptied. I added acid to both full. I hope that was OK.....I have not charge it yet since the cart still running strong....
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The vent/filling holes are located in the top-center of the cells, so unless the batteries were completely upside down, they most likely weren't completely empty. However, they had lost a lot of electrolyte, so you did OK by filling them with the premixed electrolyte from an auto parts store.

In general terms, during normal operation, add only distilled water since water is all the is lost during normal operation. If you tip a battery too far (or knock a hole in it) and fluid leaks out, replace the fluid with premixed electrolyte.

There are a ton of variables, so getting the SG back to normal for whatever brand/type battery it is, is tricky, but it is better to be a little on the high side than being on the low side, like what would happen if a significant amount of the lost diluted acid (electrolyte) was replaced with straight water.

A typical 8V cart battery contains someplace between 6 and 7 quarts of electrolyte (3 to 3.5 Pints/Cell), so spilling a few ounces and replacing with water wouldn't make much difference, but a cup (8 Oz) or more from a battery would weaken the battery.
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Unread 05-27-2014, 09:44 AM   #24
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I noticed in the pix that your cart has a watering system for the batteries. This may let a lot more acid spill - from one battery to another if it's on it's side. Normal caps don't leak rapidly but yours are designed to allow for filling.
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Unread 05-27-2014, 10:00 AM   #25
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Glad to hear shes ok. Almost exact same thing happened to my cart this weekend only it was my daughter driving. First off, if you try to straighten the uprights, remove the mirror. I broke mine adding to the frustration. The front uprights were easy to straighten but the rear required me to disassemble the seat a little. on mine, the actual part bent was the bar that the seat backs bolt to. I removed that bar, clamped it in a vice and used an old pipe to bend back to shape.When I bolted that back the rest fell back into place. My neighbors righted the cart in just a few minutes so I didn't lose any battery acid. My front end is out of alignment like yours but I haven't determined the cause. It looks as though its just toed out a bit and I could just adjust tie rod but I suspect something else has moved. Ill probably take it apart this week and figure it out. I'll post what I find later.
Thank you! very helpful information. I have a guy who fixes carts to come over soon and I will share the findings.
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Unread 05-27-2014, 10:02 AM   #26
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I noticed in the pix that your cart has a watering system for the batteries. This may let a lot more acid spill - from one battery to another if it's on it's side. Normal caps don't leak rapidly but yours are designed to allow for filling.
I removed it since I was told is a time bomb. The first friend that post in here give me an explanation why that should be removed.
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Unread 05-27-2014, 10:04 AM   #27
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CDT ask me to chime in:

The vent/filling holes are located in the top-center of the cells, so unless the batteries were completely upside down, they most likely weren't completely empty. However, they had lost a lot of electrolyte, so you did OK by filling them with the premixed electrolyte from an auto parts store.

In general terms, during normal operation, add only distilled water since water is all the is lost during normal operation. If you tip a battery too far (or knock a hole in it) and fluid leaks out, replace the fluid with premixed electrolyte.

There are a ton of variables, so getting the SG back to normal for whatever brand/type battery it is, is tricky, but it is better to be a little on the high side than being on the low side, like what would happen if a significant amount of the lost diluted acid (electrolyte) was replaced with straight water.

A typical 8V cart battery contains someplace between 6 and 7 quarts of electrolyte (3 to 3.5 Pints/Cell), so spilling a few ounces and replacing with water wouldn't make much difference, but a cup (8 Oz) or more from a battery would weaken the battery.
Thank you :), the cart was on its side for about 30 minutes, not quite sure why only 2 (the closest to the ground) were emptied and all others no.
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Unread 05-27-2014, 10:05 AM   #28
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check front spring it may need to be re-centered
check camber and toe in
Thank you, I will have the guy that will come to check it out take a look. When I see it I do not see anything bent but what do I know I am ignoramus on this arena.
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Unread 05-27-2014, 01:06 PM   #29
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I removed it since I was told is a time bomb. The first friend that post in here give me an explanation why that should be removed.
I find it hard to believe that the single point watering system is a time bomb. I cant imagine Club Car would continue to install these on thier carts if this was the case. The golf course i work at part time just got 70 2014 carts with the watering system. I have an 08 Precedent with the exact same watering system.
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Unread 05-27-2014, 01:13 PM   #30
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I find it hard to believe that the single point watering system is a time bomb. I cant imagine Club Car would continue to install these on thier carts if this was the case. The golf course i work at part time just got 70 2014 carts with the watering system. I have an 08 Precedent with the exact same watering system.
I kinda thought the same as you, have you read the post? it is the first one.
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