lifted club cars - lifted ezgo
Home FAQDonate Who's Online
Go Back   Buggies Gone Wild Golf Cart Forum > Golf Cart Repair and Troubleshooting > Electric Club Car
Electric Club Car Electric DS, and Precedent golf cars



Post New Thread  Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 07-23-2014, 03:12 PM   #11
Gone Wild
 
scooterman's Avatar
Club Car
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
Posts: 1,641
Default Re: 2008 Club Car DS IQ Will Not Run

Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFanatic View Post
Nope. But I have an extra that I am going to try installing tonight
Good idea, test it out.
scooterman is offline   Reply With Quote
Alt Today
BGW

Golf car forum Sponsored Links

__________________
This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Buggies Gone Wild Golf Cart Forum
   
Unread 07-23-2014, 03:22 PM   #12
Gone Wild
 
Sergio's Avatar
Club Car
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 4,584
Default Re: 2008 Club Car DS IQ Will Not Run

Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFanatic View Post
Have it charging now. Some other things I noticed, One of the wires (brown) in the 16 pin connector and one of the wires (blue) going into a gray plug that plugs into the OBC have been cut, have had a wire added to connect the two, and has a fuse in this jumper wire. Also, the 16 pin connector only has 15 wires in it. And, the controller in there now is a Curtis PMC 1510-5201, but the other one I got with it is a Curtis 1510A-5251
Quick question, that brown/tan wire you said cut is really spliced into it right? The tan wire brings the +48v from keyswitch to the controller and as crash said, it was used to generate the OBC unlock voltage (old blue wire signal from OBC).
Sergio is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-23-2014, 03:37 PM   #13
DS Drivers Club Founder
 
CCFanatic's Avatar
Club Car
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 3,409
Default Re: 2008 Club Car DS IQ Will Not Run

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio View Post
Quick question, that brown/tan wire you said cut is really spliced into it right? The tan wire brings the +48v from keyswitch to the controller and as crash said, it was used to generate the OBC unlock voltage (old blue wire signal from OBC).
What the previous owner (or whoever) did was cut the existing wires clean into two pieces, stripped the insulation off, then twisted the two ends of the existing wire and a new wire (which had a fuse holder and a 10A fuse inline) together then put a wire nut on
CCFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-23-2014, 03:51 PM   #14
DS Drivers Club Founder
 
CCFanatic's Avatar
Club Car
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 3,409
Default Re: 2008 Club Car DS IQ Will Not Run

I just removed that wire all together
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0761[1].jpg (148.4 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0762[1].jpg (167.4 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0763[1].jpg (168.2 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0764[1].jpg (172.9 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0765[1].jpg (192.2 KB, 0 views)
CCFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-23-2014, 03:59 PM   #15
Gone Wild
 
Sergio's Avatar
Club Car
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 4,584
Default Re: 2008 Club Car DS IQ Will Not Run

That could be your problem if indeed it was done because the OBC is not providing +48v on the blue wire to the controller to tell the controller it is OK to power the solenoid/motor.

You can also test the voltage on the blue wire, it should be +48v with the charger disconnected and the tow/run switch on run.

To by-pass it again:
The blue wire going to the OBC should be capped off.
The blue wire going into the harness should be spliced with the 2 sections of tan wire at the controller.
Sergio is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-23-2014, 04:07 PM   #16
DS Drivers Club Founder
 
CCFanatic's Avatar
Club Car
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 3,409
Default Re: 2008 Club Car DS IQ Will Not Run

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio View Post
That could be your problem if indeed it was done because the OBC is not providing +48v on the blue wire to the controller to tell the controller it is OK to power the solenoid/motor.

You can also test the voltage on the blue wire, it should be +48v with the charger disconnected and the tow/run switch on run.

To by-pass it again:
The blue wire going to the OBC should be capped off.
The blue wire going into the harness should be spliced with the 2 sections of tan wire at the controller.
How/Where can I test the blue wire for the 48v+?
CCFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-23-2014, 04:17 PM   #17
Gone Wild
 
Sergio's Avatar
Club Car
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 4,584
Default Re: 2008 Club Car DS IQ Will Not Run

set your voltmeter to the 200v DC setting and test from the blue wire splice to the battery pack negative. If you don't get +48v then the controller will not work (OBC lockout condition).
Sergio is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-23-2014, 06:14 PM   #18
DS Drivers Club Founder
 
CCFanatic's Avatar
Club Car
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 3,409
Default Re: 2008 Club Car DS IQ Will Not Run

I have another question. The blue wire that was cut into from the six pin plug to the OBC is indeed part of the Solenoid lockout circuit. But the tan/brown wire that was also cut into that goes to the 16 pin connector to the controller is a connection point for the key switch to the speed controller. This is according to my service manual. Why would that tan/brown wire be cut into?
CCFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-23-2014, 08:47 PM   #19
Gone Wild
 
scooterman's Avatar
Club Car
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
Posts: 1,641
Default Re: 2008 Club Car DS IQ Will Not Run

It is hard to diagnose as it is, lucky they guys here experienced most of these issues to help reduce the troubleshooting. This save lots of money but then there are times like this makes me think what else was changed. The good thing is most of the schematics are here and if you take the time to trace it out it can make a big difference, in reality it looks intimidating but it isn't that bad especially the newer models where the wiring is simplified.
Make a list of all the things you can visually tell was modified from stock.


LOL sorry that was a word and not help but I'm sure if you stick with, you'll figure it out.
scooterman is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-23-2014, 09:52 PM   #20
Gone Wild
 
Sergio's Avatar
Club Car
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 4,584
Default Re: 2008 Club Car DS IQ Will Not Run

I can think of 3 ways to by-pass the OBC lockout circuit in your model:
1) Jump the blue wire off the OBC into the constant +48v red wire going into the OBC. That will allow the cart to run even if the charger is plugged in.
2) Use the circuit provided by crash, that will allow a charger that has negative on the "sense wire" to disable the controller if the charger is plugged.
3) Use the method they did in your cart, when you turn the key switch on, it sends +48v on the tan wire. If you jump it to the blue wire, that will also provide the +48v the OBC should have been providing in the blue wire if it was working. This method will also allow the cart to run with the charger plugged in.
Sergio is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply
Go Back   Buggies Gone Wild Golf Cart Forum > Golf Cart Repair and Troubleshooting > Electric Club Car


Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Forum
2008 electric Club Car or 1991 14hp gas Club car??? Electric Club Car
2008 club car Electric Club Car
2008 Club Car Precedent vs. 2008 ezgo pds Electric Club Car
2008 Club Car precedent vs. 2008 ezgo pds Electric EZGO


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:50 AM.


Club Car Electric | EZGO Electric | Lifted Golf Carts | Gas EZGO | Used Golf Carts and Parts

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.