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Unread 11-30-2008, 09:49 PM   #11
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BRS - This is a pefectly legit question. Is the 97 a series or DCS? Is the 2002 a series or PDS? For a 97 to outrun any newer cart, then it either has a larger motor (hp) or a set of gears in it. The 2002 - is the F/R a shift handle or a toggle style on the dash? BRS is on the money with his question.



Hitman - You are so far out of line, I can't believe you feel so comfortable as to leave such a reply. You're going to dig yourself in a deeper hole that you are already in with the "regulars" in here. Yes, some get a little "upset" at some posts, but we that support all those with answers really don't HAVE to. I, as many others, do expect that the new person do his / her own research FIRST, then after some self education, ask their questions (which is what you DIDN'T seem to do when you joined). Like it or not - golf cart sales and repairs is what I do for a living. My answers (as well as others) are free to you - BUT take time out of my day that I usually get PAID for. Your disrespect (Hitman) of this is why I will no longer assist in any more of your requests.

My apologies Jackhammer for venting in your thread, but your reply is off as well. Remember - YOU are the one requesting FREE information here. Don't bite the hand that feeds...

OK - My 2 cents...
Newbie's like myself and the fellow who started this thread have no idea what to look for, that is more than likely why we come here to start with ! I just think some could be friendlier and remember the questions they had when they were newbies. Don't make us feel like dumba$$es when we ask questions, this is our easiest way of learning and I have learned a lot since joining here. Most of what I've learned has been from Roady89 and gornoman or something similar to those names, they have been very professional and polite in their advice.
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Unread 11-30-2008, 11:34 PM   #12
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Jackhammer FWIW BRS asked relevant questions and IMO was not out of line. IF you are going to work on carts you need some mechanical and electrical skills. Working with batteries is extremely dangerous and very unforgiving of mistakes. If you short out the batteries you will have an instant arc flash vaporizing the wiring and spews white hot plasma that will turn your flesh into instant charcoal and set everything around it on fire. Not trying to scare you off, but you kneed to know your are playing with fire.

The 2002 cart is more than likely a PDS type, but you will have to tell us by telling us how it goes into reverse. If the reverse switch is a rocker electrical switch on the dash then it is a PDS. If the reverse is a lever on the seat bench it is series motor.

OK if it is a PDS cart they have what is called the speed chip. It is really not an electronic chip at all, it is a plug with a wire jumper. More than likely it is set for high torque and low speed, with regenerative braking. FWIW you can also tell if it is a PDS cart by lifting the seat, look on the controller and there will be a toggle switch labeled RUN / TOW.

So let’s start with identifying what you have and go from there. Check the nameplates and post back here.
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Unread 12-01-2008, 01:50 AM   #13
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The 1997 and the 2002 cart both share the same f/reverse lever is on the bench seat. The 2002 does not have the tow/run feature but the 1997 does.
I will check the nameplates and post back here. Thanks again for the feedback,

A little feedback, all replys are greatly appreciated, I have a large family that requires a lot of money and they appreciate you guys helping keep the money here.
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Unread 12-01-2008, 02:19 AM   #14
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The 97 is a DCS cart. The 2002 is a series cart. IMO, It's not worth gutting the DCS cart and swapping the electronics. The DCS is a SEPEX system, feild and armature are seperately exited. The 2002 series cart, the field and armature are in series. You are basically stuck with what you got unless you upgrade some components.

Easiest thing to do is upgrade the 02 to 48 volts or get a higher speed motor. Higher speed motor also means your gonna loose torque unless you upgrade other components.
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Unread 12-01-2008, 10:29 AM   #15
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The 1997 and the 2002 cart both share the same f/reverse lever is on the bench seat. The 2002 does not have the tow/run feature but the 1997 does.
OK as stated the 97 is a DCS, and the 2002 is a series type motor.

Don't know very much about DCS motors, other than there is not much you can do with them.

Your 2002 series cart can be worked with, but it will be expensive. Basically you have to change out the motor, controller, solenoid, F/R switch, and most of the wiring. You are looking at around $1000. Convert to 48 volt add another $800 or so. If you go all the way with 48 volt conversion, a D398 motor, 650 amp controller, 1/0 cables, HD solenoid, etc you can join the 30 MPH club.

I just bought 2003 series E-Z Go and going through the steps. FWIW if you are considering going to 48 volts, buy all new batteries, and not add two new batteries to the existing 6 older batteries. For me I went a different route, I replaced the 6-6 volt batteries with 6-8 volt batteries because I did not want to give up the bagwell space for a battery, I play golf.
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Unread 12-01-2008, 07:00 PM   #16
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You guys are amazing, I appreciate all of the help.
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Unread 12-01-2008, 08:51 PM   #17
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we all come here to either get help or help others out to try and save them money.......i know we all don,t have money to just throw around and for me it feels good to at least try and help out if i can........i jumped into the golfcart thing head 1st about 5 years ago lets say the golfcart thing jumped on me front wheels 1st because at that time i was paying someone to work on my cart.......the fellow who was working on my cart had mentioned it was getting much and in return i said i wouldn,t mind dabbling in it because it just seemed interesting.........well me and the wife went to camp for memorial day weekend and that saturday people just start showing up at my camp saying we went to see this fellow for repairs and he said you were doing them now......i was caught 100% off guard but i took a deep breath and started working on golfcarts which up to that point the only thing i had ever did was drive them................i learned on my own with the help of service manuals and i was scared to death of touching an elec. cart .......i should note the 1st elec cart i worked on was a E-Z go 90 or 91 something like that but i caught the blasted thing on fire i mean fire..............i managed to get it under control and just had to do a lot of new wiring and it ended up costing me money but when i was done the carts problems were solved and it ran like a champ.....................i also gained a ton of know how by sites like this where i needed help on a regular basis and no matter how stupid it sounded i got answers...............that was 5 years ago and to this very day i learn something on carts by asking questions and trying different things but now i can get on here and give back........i,m not an expert by any means and everyone who knows me knows i,m not right all the time and when i,m wrong i admit it as one should.......the only stupid questions are the ones not asked and in the end if i can or we can save a member some money we try and we try to point out safety issues and some do,s and don,ts .............ok i,m done.......................
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