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Old 08-07-2016, 04:26 PM   #1
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Cart: EZGO Series TXT, 48V upgrade. Alltrax SPM48500. ScottyB's HD F&R and Super Duty (MZJ400) solenoid.

Question. solenoid clicks, but no go. 0 voltage between b- and m- on solenoid with gas pedal pressed. Full pack voltage between small terminals on solenoid when pedal pressed. Almost full pack voltage between big terminals on solenoid when pedal not pressed. 0 voltage between big terminals on solenoid when pedal pressed. Is my solenoid bad?

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Old 08-07-2016, 05:02 PM   #2
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Cart: EZGO Series TXT, 48V upgrade. Alltrax SPM48500. ScottyB's HD F&R and Super Duty (MZJ400) solenoid.

Question. solenoid clicks, but no go.
1. 0 voltage between b- and m- on solenoid with gas pedal pressed.
2. Full pack voltage between small terminals on solenoid when pedal pressed.
3. Almost full pack voltage between big terminals on solenoid when pedal not pressed.
4. 0 voltage between big terminals on solenoid when pedal pressed.
5. Is my solenoid bad?
1. Normal, but inconclusive since this is the second half of a two part test-- see below for first part of test.
2. Normal
3. Normal
4. Normal
5. No

What is the voltage between B- and M- when pedal is pushed just far enough for solenoid to click?

If it is not full battery pack voltage, than there is an open somewhere in a high current cable, connection or contact. Also could be bad motor windings or brushes.
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Old 08-07-2016, 05:17 PM   #3
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1. Normal, but inconclusive since this is the second half of a two part test-- see below for first part of test.
2. Normal
3. Normal
4. Normal
5. No

What is the voltage between B- and M- when pedal is pushed just far enough for solenoid to click?

If it is not full battery pack voltage, than there is an open somewhere in a high current cable, connection or contact. Also could be bad motor windings or brushes.
Voltage jumps to about 30v and then drops back to 0 pretty quickly. Thought I tested all of the high current connections, have to test them again. Thanks
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Voltage jumps to about 30v and then drops back to 0 pretty quickly. Thought I tested all of the high current connections, have to test them again. Thanks
Might be the F/R switch contacts. Is cam rotating all the way into the mechanical stops?

Quick and dirty test. Measure voltage from main negative on battery pack to
each of the four studs on the F/R switch. All should have full pack voltage when pedal is pushed just far enough for solenoid to click.
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JohnnieB, how is #4 normal? Shouldn't he be reading full pack voltage on each of the large terminals when the solenoid is engaged??
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JohnnieB, how is #4 normal? Shouldn't he be reading full pack voltage on each of the large terminals when the solenoid is engaged??
Only if he is referencing the negative test lead to B-, which he is not doing.

Re-read #4. He said "between the big terminals", so he would read 0V when the solenoid contacts are closed.

However, in re-reading #3, I see I might have made a mistake.
If there is a Pre-charge resistor installed the reading ought to be about 5V or so.
Without the resistor, between the big terminals will read full pack voltage or very close to it, depending on the input impedance of the voltmeter being used.
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