what next

rberg31 · 12-09-2011, 11:35 PM

Ok, so Im the new guy and this is my first post, so here goes...I just purchased a completely stock 06' txt ezgo. I have also just purchased a 6" Jake's spindle lift, 10x7" black steel rims and 23x10x10 mud lite tires. My question is for any who care to respond is what should I do next? I apologize if others have asked this same question, however I have grown impatient reading through hundreds of posts. From what I gather, the size tire that I am running would require an upgrade to the controller, which would then require an upgrade to the wires (i.e. 4 or even 2 gauge rather than 6). The cart does about 15mph right now with stock tires wheels, and just me in the cart. So the land I will be using the cart is relatively flat, with a few small hills. Any info on what to do next is greatly appreciated. thanks, Rob

Tony M · 12-10-2011, 02:04 AM

Welcome to the forums.

Andy4639 · 12-10-2011, 07:38 AM

Welcome aboard,

That depends on what you want the cart for? Just riding on flat ground are you want to go off roading,hunting?

I would swap out the cables first and drive it. Get a good feel for it and then decide which way to go. Get to know the cart.
If your looking for speed the PQ motor is a good way to go. If you want more torque for hills get a controller with more amp's.
There are all kinds of choices for the cart, you just need to know what direction you want to go first.

JohnnieB · 12-10-2011, 07:51 AM

to BWG

The TXT came in two flavors in '06. PDS with a Sepex (Separately Excited) motor at the Series with a Series wound motor.
If your F/R control is a rocker switch on the dash by the Key switch, you've got a PDS. If it is a level by your right knee, you've got a Series cart.

You effectively change the final drive ration when you change tire height, so going from the stock 18" to 23" you've gained about 4 MPH and lost about 28% of the original Torque.
(I say about because the tire height marked on tires is, at best, approximate. IE: The Carlisle Link 18x8.5-8 tire that is typically found on a stock TXT is only 17.4" tall when mounted.)

To increase (regain) the Torque, you've got to pump more current (Amps) through the motor and to do that you have to upgrade everything motor current passes through.
For a PDS cart that would be 10 High Current Cables, Solenoid and Controller.
For a Series cart it would be 13 High Current Cables, Solenoid, Controller and the F/R Switch. (On an '06, just upgrading to a HD Cam assembly in the F/R Switch should suffice)
With either type cart, you might want to upgrade the motor also, but the stock motors have considerable undeveloped potential, so it's near the bottom of the list.

I've got an '08 PDS and have no need for more ground clearance or mud tires, but my stock 4Ga cables were embedded with corrosion, so I upgrade to 2Ga with sealed ends.
My plan is very simple: If and when anything fails, it gets replaced with a higher rated component.

Those tall tires will put a greater load on everything in the high current circuit and the stock components will eventually fail, so you can be proactive or reactive.
If it were mine, I'd upgrade the cables if it was a PDS cart, or Cables and F/R Switch if it was a Series cart.

rberg31 · 12-10-2011, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnieB

to BWG

The TXT came in two flavors in '06. PDS with a Sepex (Separately Excited) motor at the Series with a Series wound motor.
If your F/R control is a rocker switch on the dash by the Key switch, you've got a PDS. If it is a level by your right knee, you've got a Series cart.

You effectively change the final drive ration when you change tire height, so going from the stock 18" to 23" you've gained about 4 MPH and lost about 28% of the original Torque.
(I say about because the tire height marked on tires is, at best, approximate. IE: The Carlisle Link 18x8.5-8 tire that is typically found on a stock TXT is only 17.4" tall when mounted.)

To increase (regain) the Torque, you've got to pump more current (Amps) through the motor and to do that you have to upgrade everything motor current passes through.
For a PDS cart that would be 10 High Current Cables, Solenoid and Controller.
For a Series cart it would be 13 High Current Cables, Solenoid, Controller and the F/R Switch. (On an '06, just upgrading to a HD Cam assembly in the F/R Switch should suffice)
With either type cart, you might want to upgrade the motor also, but the stock motors have considerable undeveloped potential, so it's near the bottom of the list.

I've got an '08 PDS and have no need for more ground clearance or mud tires, but my stock 4Ga cables were embedded with corrosion, so I upgrade to 2Ga with sealed ends.
My plan is very simple: If and when anything fails, it gets replaced with a higher rated component.

Those tall tires will put a greater load on everything in the high current circuit and the stock components will eventually fail, so you can be proactive or reactive.
If it were mine, I'd upgrade the cables if it was a PDS cart, or Cables and F/R Switch if it was a Series cart.

Thanks for the replies, I have already learned something from the responses. My cart is an 06' series cart that was babied and well taken care of, absolutely no rust, corrosion, and always garaged. I plan on using the cart, for now, to get me to my deer stand and maybe take my little one for a ride around the neighborhood every now and again. The area I hunt in is relatively flat. Im not really concerned with speed as the cart in its stock set up does 15mph. I am however concerned with the torque that JohnnieB mentioned as I may want to throw a couple sacks of corn in the cart and myrifle. So what gauge cables are on my cart and what size should I upgrade to? Also, if when I put on the tire wheel set up that I mentioned in my intial post, what is necessary to regain the lost torque? even in my carts stock set up she slows down a bit going up a paved small hill on my street, not much, but enough for me to notice. Thanks again all for your assistance.

rberg31 · 12-10-2011, 09:10 AM

Oops didnt realize that some of my questions were answered, so now I have heard to upgrade controller, which one and why? I have also read to upgrade solenoid and the f/r switch, which one and why? Sorry for all the questions I am truly green when it comes to this stuff...

cableguy_hd · 12-10-2011, 09:13 AM

I just put a 5"lift and 22" tires with flip seat on mine 96 36v. I can get up the hills on pavement here but its slow. I cant remember how it was before the kit as I didnt drive it much. You probably have 6ga. cables. Most here will recommend 4ga. or even 2 ga.

cableguy_hd · 12-10-2011, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnieB

to BWG

To increase (regain) the Torque, you've got to pump more current (Amps) through the motor and to do that you have to upgrade everything motor current passes through.
For a PDS cart that would be 10 High Current Cables, Solenoid and Controller.
For a Series cart it would be 13 High Current Cables, Solenoid, Controller and the F/R Switch. (On an '06, just upgrading to a HD Cam assembly in the F/R Switch should suffice)
With either type cart, you might want to upgrade the motor also, but the stock motors have considerable undeveloped potential, so it's near the bottom of the list.

I've got an '08 PDS and have no need for more ground clearance or mud tires, but my stock 4Ga cables were embedded with corrosion, so I upgrade to 2Ga with sealed ends.
My plan is very simple: If and when anything fails, it gets replaced with a higher rated component.

Those tall tires will put a greater load on everything in the high current circuit and the stock components will eventually fail, so you can be proactive or reactive.
If it were mine, I'd upgrade the cables if it was a PDS cart, or Cables and F/R Switch if it was a Series cart.

this gets you the torque back

rberg31 · 12-10-2011, 09:21 AM

so i got the wholereplace cables part, I guess i will go with 2 gauge in case a decide to go bigger later on, so still need to know about what type of controller and the f/r switch and someone mentioned a cam swap?

scottyb · 12-10-2011, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rberg31

Thanks for the replies, I have already learned something from the responses. My cart is an 06' series cart that was babied and well taken care of, absolutely no rust, corrosion, and always garaged. I plan on using the cart, for now, to get me to my deer stand and maybe take my little one for a ride around the neighborhood every now and again. The area I hunt in is relatively flat. Im not really concerned with speed as the cart in its stock set up does 15mph. I am however concerned with the torque that JohnnieB mentioned as I may want to throw a couple sacks of corn in the cart and myrifle. So what gauge cables are on my cart and what size should I upgrade to? Also, if when I put on the tire wheel set up that I mentioned in my intial post, what is necessary to regain the lost torque? even in my carts stock set up she slows down a bit going up a paved small hill on my street, not much, but enough for me to notice. Thanks again all for your assistance.

With 23s and 2 sacks of corn you will notice a marked decrease in performance. For off road driving you need torque more than speed. Basically, Torque is a product of amperage. I suggest you use a 4-500 amp controller and HD solenoid, 2-4g cables and a F&R upgraded rotary cam. This will get you all you can from the stock 36v set up.
If you go with the 500a control you can turn it down a bit for the stock motor now and turn it up when you get the big aftermarket motor later...next season upgrades?
Also this stuff would be compatible with a voltage increase to 48v if you get the correct controller/solenoid package. If you decide to go that route. 48v will gain 30% in both torque and speed from the stock motor.

12-09-2011, 11:35 PM	#1
rberg31 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: new orleans Posts: 52	what next Ok, so Im the new guy and this is my first post, so here goes...I just purchased a completely stock 06' txt ezgo. I have also just purchased a 6" Jake's spindle lift, 10x7" black steel rims and 23x10x10 mud lite tires. My question is for any who care to respond is what should I do next? I apologize if others have asked this same question, however I have grown impatient reading through hundreds of posts. From what I gather, the size tire that I am running would require an upgrade to the controller, which would then require an upgrade to the wires (i.e. 4 or even 2 gauge rather than 6). The cart does about 15mph right now with stock tires wheels, and just me in the cart. So the land I will be using the cart is relatively flat, with a few small hills. Any info on what to do next is greatly appreciated. thanks, Rob

12-10-2011, 02:04 AM	#2
Tony M Getting Wild Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Hurley, MS Posts: 90	Re: what next Welcome to the forums.

12-10-2011, 07:38 AM	#3
Andy4639 48/400/Alltrax HS motor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Liberty SC, Garden City SC Posts: 6,190	Re: what next Welcome aboard, That depends on what you want the cart for? Just riding on flat ground are you want to go off roading,hunting? I would swap out the cables first and drive it. Get a good feel for it and then decide which way to go. Get to know the cart. If your looking for speed the PQ motor is a good way to go. If you want more torque for hills get a controller with more amp's. There are all kinds of choices for the cart, you just need to know what direction you want to go first.

12-10-2011, 07:51 AM	#4
JohnnieB Techno-Nerd Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: West Virginia Posts: 19,654	Re: what next to BWG The TXT came in two flavors in '06. PDS with a Sepex (Separately Excited) motor at the Series with a Series wound motor. If your F/R control is a rocker switch on the dash by the Key switch, you've got a PDS. If it is a level by your right knee, you've got a Series cart. You effectively change the final drive ration when you change tire height, so going from the stock 18" to 23" you've gained about 4 MPH and lost about 28% of the original Torque. (I say about because the tire height marked on tires is, at best, approximate. IE: The Carlisle Link 18x8.5-8 tire that is typically found on a stock TXT is only 17.4" tall when mounted.) To increase (regain) the Torque, you've got to pump more current (Amps) through the motor and to do that you have to upgrade everything motor current passes through. For a PDS cart that would be 10 High Current Cables, Solenoid and Controller. For a Series cart it would be 13 High Current Cables, Solenoid, Controller and the F/R Switch. (On an '06, just upgrading to a HD Cam assembly in the F/R Switch should suffice) With either type cart, you might want to upgrade the motor also, but the stock motors have considerable undeveloped potential, so it's near the bottom of the list. I've got an '08 PDS and have no need for more ground clearance or mud tires, but my stock 4Ga cables were embedded with corrosion, so I upgrade to 2Ga with sealed ends. My plan is very simple: If and when anything fails, it gets replaced with a higher rated component. Those tall tires will put a greater load on everything in the high current circuit and the stock components will eventually fail, so you can be proactive or reactive. If it were mine, I'd upgrade the cables if it was a PDS cart, or Cables and F/R Switch if it was a Series cart.

12-10-2011, 09:10 AM	#6
rberg31 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: new orleans Posts: 52	Re: what next Oops didnt realize that some of my questions were answered, so now I have heard to upgrade controller, which one and why? I have also read to upgrade solenoid and the f/r switch, which one and why? Sorry for all the questions I am truly green when it comes to this stuff...

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12-10-2011, 09:13 AM	#7
cableguy_hd Gone Wild Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Danville,Va. Posts: 654	Re: what next I just put a 5"lift and 22" tires with flip seat on mine 96 36v. I can get up the hills on pavement here but its slow. I cant remember how it was before the kit as I didnt drive it much. You probably have 6ga. cables. Most here will recommend 4ga. or even 2 ga.

12-10-2011, 09:21 AM	#9
rberg31 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: new orleans Posts: 52	Re: what next so i got the wholereplace cables part, I guess i will go with 2 gauge in case a decide to go bigger later on, so still need to know about what type of controller and the f/r switch and someone mentioned a cam swap?