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Unread 07-01-2018, 11:54 PM   #1231
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Has anybody tried using the Digitus DA-70156 USB<>Serial Converter? Supposedly it also utilizes an FTDI FT232RL, but I'm not sure if the rest of the Converter is compatible with the solutions posted here.
I haven't tried one myself. My first concern would be if it uses a real FTDI chip or a clone chip. If it's chinese made, it's likely a clone. The clone chips won't work with the drivers.
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Unread 07-10-2018, 08:06 AM   #1232
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For those, who have problem with OEM registry key go to "Region and lannguage" -> administrative-> change system locale ->chose english (united states)
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Unread 08-10-2018, 05:44 PM   #1233
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Ok, I have an update... I was able to reflash a clone FTDI cable to function as a real FTDI cable. I did not think that it was possible. After downloading and analyzing the code, I was able to determine that the chinese clone used the same microcontroller as the real FTDI cable. I reprogrammed the clone cable as a real FTDI cable. Once that was done, it passed all tests using the FTDI tools. Sorry, but out of respect for FTDI I am not going to reveal how this is done. The chinese will ruin them more if they were to find out how I did it. Here are some photos showing the cables and the 1314-4402 softeware with the reprogrammed cable connected to a Curtis controller, showing the Development level menus...
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Ok, I have an update... I was able to reflash a clone FTDI cable to function as a real FTDI cable. I did not think that it was possible. After downloading and analyzing the code, I was able to determine that the chinese clone used the same microcontroller as the real FTDI cable. I reprogrammed the clone cable as a real FTDI cable. Once that was done, it passed all tests using the FTDI tools. Sorry, but out of respect for FTDI I am not going to reveal how this is done. The chinese will ruin them more if they were to find out how I did it. Here are some photos showing the cables and the 1314-4402 softeware with the reprogrammed cable connected to a Curtis controller, showing the Development level menus...


If they can't afford the real $12 (or whatever) cable, they ought to find a different hobby. That cable is far cheaper than any pre made programmer, or any trip to the dealer.
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Unread 08-11-2018, 01:15 AM   #1235
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Yea, I just bought 10 of the real cables. They cost about $20 or so each and for less than a buck you can get the connector and pins. Shipping can cost more than the parts, depending upon how they ship. He said he bought it from someone here.
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Ok, I have an update... I was able to reflash a clone FTDI cable to function as a real FTDI cable. I did not think that it was possible. After downloading and analyzing the code, I was able to determine that the chinese clone used the same microcontroller as the real FTDI cable. I reprogrammed the clone cable as a real FTDI cable. Once that was done, it passed all tests using the FTDI tools. Sorry, but out of respect for FTDI I am not going to reveal how this is done. The chinese will ruin them more if they were to find out how I did it. Here are some photos showing the cables and the 1314-4402 softeware with the reprogrammed cable connected to a Curtis controller, showing the Development level menus...
Hello Bob
I bought an isolated interface that has a real FTDI FT232RL chip, but after following all your advice I can not connect to the curtis 1230 controller.
The PC recognizes the interface as 1309 USB, OS win7. I have repeatedly checked the signals on the connector and it seems that everything is OK.
Is there any setting of the com port to be checked? Any other suggestion? ...or where I can buy a ready working cable?

thanks for help
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Hello Bob
I bought an isolated interface that has a real FTDI FT232RL chip, but after following all your advice I can not connect to the curtis 1230 controller.
The PC recognizes the interface as 1309 USB, OS win7. I have repeatedly checked the signals on the connector and it seems that everything is OK.
Is there any setting of the com port to be checked? Any other suggestion? ...or where I can buy a ready working cable?

thanks for help
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Are you using the right software? ie 1314-4402 for the FTDI based 1309 Interface. There should be no request for com ports with that software, as it uses a driver software to integrate it. Also, you need to have an Original, or an Exact clone, of a real Curtis 1309 USB interface in order to install the software. It must pass interface authentication before a software intallation will set the flags as being authenticated, and sets up the Software Access Level and Interface Access Level entries in the software registry for the 1314-4402 installation. There are 2 steps to authentication, initial installation (SAL) and communications with a controller (IAL). Both of those must pass authenication before the software will operate properly with a controller that uses Enhanced Serial Communications mode. 1314-4401 uses a serial interface and does not have the same level of authentication.
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Hi and thanks for reply
I'm using software 1314-4402.
For Eprom I'm using your OEM Curtis 1309 Interface EEPROM data
in your post 1193.
Can I buy a working cable by a member of this forum?
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Hi Gianni62.

After cloning the EEPROM it is necessary to invert RX and TX by FTProg. Leave the serial number with 0.

I hope it helps.
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Hi Gianni62.

After cloning the EEPROM it is necessary to invert RX and TX by FTProg. Leave the serial number with 0.

I hope it helps.
If you have programmed your cable & are still having trouble, try the following...
Open FT_Prog, connect your FTDI cable and read the cable EEPROM.
Select the Use Serial Number box, if it is not already selected.
Set the Serial Number Prefix to 00.
Unselect the Auto Generate Serial Number, if it is selected.
Copy from here and paste, the Serial Number to 000000žD (Do not add any more digits to this, will corrupt the EEPROM from 0x0030 on)
Make sure TX Invert and RX Invert are the only ones selected.
Program the changes into your cable, then try it again.
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