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Unread 07-08-2011, 08:11 AM   #211
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Controller needs to be powered (ksi on)

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Unread 07-08-2011, 08:19 AM   #212
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Right but what is the minimum voltage? You might be able to power it up with only 24 volts or something for programming.
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Unread 07-08-2011, 10:29 AM   #213
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I have no idea about minumum voltage.
What voltage does the controller normally run at?

I have a 24V controller, so that runs well at 24V :-)
If you have a spyglass attached, see when it powers up.

If it does you should be able to communicate with the controller.

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Unread 07-08-2011, 05:30 PM   #214
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So far it can not open the CAN adapter...I guess that makes it a cant adapter........
It's not CAN, it communicates via the Enhanced serial connection..... but funny joke anyway ;)
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Unread 07-08-2011, 05:42 PM   #215
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This is Travis, the guy in the video that got it to work with the IOGear dongle. Just dropping by because this forum helped me a TON on getting it working!

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Right but what is the minimum voltage? You might be able to power it up with only 24 volts or something for programming.
I had an adjustable supply that I used on a 1238-7501 (put a diode in between the controller to keep the CAP's from discharging into the power supply when you turn it off, or disconnect before turning off). I had it working at 12V, but I'd give it at least 24V to power up.

You need to use a fuse on B+ still, and hook at least 24V to the B+ and B-. Then take the KSI and hook that to B+ and that will power up the controller enough to communicate.

Now, a bit on why mine works:

I know that these most of todays dongles are made to work with both TTL level (like on laptops) and real serial level (+/-12V). Some even work down to 3.3VDC. They use a charge pump to get to 12V levels if they recieve 12V from the RX of the DB9. I've used many of these without a level converter because they work 12V down to 3.3V. It looks like the Curtis works at 5V (TTL). So, the deal is, you don't need a TTL converter with these dongles, you only need it if you're using a TRUE serial port on an older computer that uses 12V. These dongles use the FTDI chips that have a wide swing.

Now, about the inverting. I don't know for sure why mine doesn't need it, but I think it may have something to do with how the software driver works. If it only registers rising/falling edges of the serial data coming in, it may default to one or the other based on some error/fault detection. Mine just worked, first try. The driver may be inverting internally. I think the software helps sort some of that out.

All I know is that all that it took for me, is a USB dongle and simple wiring harness. All I did was make up a little 4 pin adapter to go to a 6-pin adapter for my spyglass from HPEVS (Hi Performance Golf Cars) and plugged to the RS232 port of my IOgear dongle. Hook TX of the controller to RX of the dongle, and RX of the controller to TX of the dongle, and ground. That's all I needed. I could change parameters, cycle power, and view those changed parameters.

I verified that everything worked correctly with an actual 1314 as well as my 1311 handheld programmer.

I was more or less ONLY doing it out of spite to prove someone wrong on another forum, and posted just to make a point. I hope it helps some people here.
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Unread 07-08-2011, 05:54 PM   #216
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Default Re: Programming Curtis Controller

note:
the GUC232A is based on the Prolific PL2303 chip, so there may be something there to look for. All of the new software is backwards compatible with the older revision PL2303 chips.

Anyway, thats it for now.
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Unread 07-08-2011, 07:26 PM   #217
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Jr... No power to controller. Just plugged in. Just the adapter does thesame thing.

Sez, cant open CAN adapter. So, i gues it is looking for a real CAN adapter. It only find my lash up.

Im going to try it with various combos of gear and see what it sez then.

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Unread 07-08-2011, 08:01 PM   #218
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Give it 24V and see what it does.
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Unread 07-08-2011, 08:07 PM   #219
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All I did was make up a little 4 pin adapter to go to a 6-pin adapter for my spyglass from HPEVS
I hope you meant to a 8-pin adapter for the spyglass, 'cause I just ordered some cables
And thanks for stopping by with the explanations
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Unread 07-08-2011, 09:59 PM   #220
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My spyglass is an 8 pin.....
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