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Old 01-24-2011, 09:57 PM   #81
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Get a gas cart. Just one 12 volt battery will work for years.
Hey some of us do not have the money for expensive toys.

When I am there Wed picking up our 07 EZGO PDS I will now be sad it is not gas. NOT

Bet our head lights will burn days longer than yours without your engine running. With the electric cart I can work on stuff all night now. :)

May run over to the Capital early for another tour since it is field trip day.
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Old 01-24-2011, 10:53 PM   #82
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Looking back I think gas would have been a better idea than electric.Now Im sorta stuck.I need to figure out how to upload my cart photo in the profile like others do. The batteries may suck ,but Im proud of the cart anyway.
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:18 PM   #83
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Looking back I think gas would have been a better idea than electric.Now Im sorta stuck.I need to figure out how to upload my cart photo in the profile like others do. The batteries may suck ,but Im proud of the cart anyway.
Why not sell it or trade it for a gas cart. Do the batteries just need replacing?
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:38 PM   #84
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Yes,the cart is otherwise in excellent condition.Im going to see my CC dealer tomorrow and discuss a variety of possibilities and go from there.
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Old 01-25-2011, 08:57 AM   #85
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This morning i used a multimeter on each of my batteries to test the voltage they are showing. Three of the 4 tested 12.5 volts or higher,but the one battery i think is suspect only tested 12.38 volts.I dont know if that is significant or not as i dont have any real experience with multimeters or ranges of voltage as an indicator of battery condition.If anyone can answer this question I would appreciate it. Maybe i only have to replace one battery to solve my current problem , at least for a while.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:13 AM   #86
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This morning i used a multimeter on each of my batteries to test the voltage they are showing. Three of the 4 tested 12.5 volts or higher,but the one battery i think is suspect only tested 12.38 volts.I dont know if that is significant or not as i dont have any real experience with multimeters or ranges of voltage as an indicator of battery condition.If anyone can answer this question I would appreciate it. Maybe i only have to replace one battery to solve my current problem , at least for a while.
Have you tried running an electronic desulfator on them?

They are good to have around for carts and your cars.

Amazon.com: Vector 1089A 12 V Battery Charger: Automotive Amazon.com: Vector 1089A 12 V Battery Charger: Automotive

Amazon.com: Black & Decker VEC1093D Smart Battery Charger with 110 Amp Engine Start and 40 Amp, 20 Amp, 10 Amp, 4 Amp Continuous Charge Rates: Automotive Amazon.com: Black & Decker VEC1093D Smart Battery Charger with 110 Amp Engine Start and 40 Amp, 20 Amp, 10 Amp, 4 Amp Continuous Charge Rates: Automotive

Amazon.com: CTEK Multi US 7002 12V Battery Charger: Automotive Amazon.com: CTEK Multi US 7002 12V Battery Charger: Automotive


I've had great luck with all 3 of the above. In particular the CTEK. I have the battery bank on the wifes CC setup with one of these:
Amazon.com: CTEK 56-261 Comfort Connect 3/8" Eyelet: Automotive Amazon.com: CTEK 56-261 Comfort Connect 3/8" Eyelet: Automotive
on each battery so I can just click it in to one of the batteries per week. It keeps them right at 12.8v.

It also has a special charge setting specifically for AGM batteries, because they require a higher charging voltage than flooded cells.
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:30 AM   #87
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turboaz2..thanks for your suggestions. I looked at the links you included but i dont know what an electronic desulfator is.I keep my CC cart on charger any time i am not using it which is what you are supposed to do. I do have a deep cycle charger i use for my boat batteries. My CC dealer gave me a 12 volt battery today which we hot load tested and it tested better than the one battery i have which is testing in the Weak area of the tester,so i am going to switch them out and see what that does. That , plus resorting to the epsom salts remedy is about my last hurrah for these batteries.

I am definitely not going to replace these 12 volters when they are all done.I was leaning toward converting to a 6 8volt set up...cost about $1600, but I found today I can upgrade my 2005 Precedent to a 2010 CC Champion where they will remove all the accessories on my current cart and install them on the 2010 and give me a 4 year 100% warranty including on the batteries...for $3500. That is only a little over twice what the battery conversion alone will cost me so unless i go with a gas cart next time...which i am definitely going to look at...the upgrade seems like a no brainer vs the other solutions i have been looking at.

Anyway I feel like i made some progress today. Thanks for all the helpful suggestions from folks on this forum.
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:34 AM   #88
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We have two with the 110 amp engine start mode. Got an extra year out of a 48 volt bank after running 3 of the 24 hour timed Desulf Mode on each 12 volt group. Run time had decreased by 50% and the use of the Desulf Mode gave us back 50% of the lost from new run time.

Off to pick up our cart tomorrow. The 36v BatteryMINDer order was placed yesterday.
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Old 01-25-2011, 04:01 PM   #89
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I am definitely not going to replace these 12 volters when they are all done.I was leaning toward converting to a 6 8volt set up...cost about $1600, but I found today I can upgrade my 2005 Precedent to a 2010 CC Champion where they will remove all the accessories on my current cart and install them on the 2010 and give me a 4 year 100% warranty including on the batteries...for $3500. That is only a little over twice what the battery conversion alone will cost me so unless i go with a gas cart next time...which i am definitely going to look at...the upgrade seems like a no brainer vs the other solutions i have been looking at.

Anyway I feel like i made some progress today. Thanks for all the helpful suggestions from folks on this forum.[/QUOTE]


The reason batteries lose power over time is the lead plates grow lead sulfate crystals. These crystals inhibit the ability of the battery to take a full charge.

A desulfator breaks up these crystals and returns the lead and sulfuric acid into the solution in the battery.

They can be had at nearly every wal-mart and most auto part stores. Sulfation is just a part of a normal battery's life cycle.

Just be sure to buy a charger with a "reconditioning" mode.

If you do buy the new cart I would install a 48v onboard desulfator from the get go.

The batteries will stay in better condition throughout their life and you will always make it home ;)
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Old 01-25-2011, 04:37 PM   #90
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My battery charger is a Schumacher model WM-1200A which i have used for many years to charge my boat batteries. I looked it up on the internet and it apparently DOES NOT have a defulsate mode. This afternoon i removed my one weak battery and installed the used one my CC dealer gave me .It took a full charge from my charger above in about 1 1/2 hours and tested much higher on my hot load tester than the battery i had removed....so..my cart is now on the CC charger and tomorrow i will try it out to see if the "new" battery helped or not...and go from there. I'm sort of optimistic at this point. I will definitely be looking for a replacement charger which has the desulfate mode .

thanks for your help.
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