Plum Quick Grizzly II vs Black Widow II

SEHunter · 10-22-2017, 10:11 AM

Looking for the power specs of both of these motors as well as intended application. Unfortunately they're not specifically mentioned on the PQ web site. Are both of these considered torque motors?

If anyone is running either of these, please share your experience. Thanks.

SEHunter · 10-22-2017, 06:14 PM

Found an old thread in this sub forum from June 2016 where someone stated the Black Widow is 17.9 hp. Haven't come across anyone specifically stating the specs on the Grizzly. Nowhere I've seen where people are specifying if these numbers are peak or sustained. That makes a lot of difference when comparing different offerings from different mfg.

Another thread says PQ told one guy the Black Widow needs a minimum of a 700 amp controller. Alltrax doesn't list a controller for 48 volt over 600. Maybe the SR-48600 would work since the sustained amp specs are higher than the old AXE line. This particular thread I believe was dated prior to the introduction of the Alltrax SR series.

Swan · 10-23-2017, 08:00 AM

Aren't they two different splines for two different drive systems

SEHunter · 10-23-2017, 09:09 AM

I'm not sure and haven't come across that info before but it's possible. Would certainly help in narrowing down my decision.

SEHunter · 10-23-2017, 09:13 AM

Not sure of the specs on you're Rattlesnake II but would the Alltrax SR-48600 supply enough power since they've increased the sustained amperage output? I read somewhere that a minimum of 700 amps was recommended for the RS. That's the other decision I have to make after I get the specs/application figured out for these two motors.

Swan · 10-23-2017, 09:44 AM

the RS II is not a torque motor but more of a middle of the road motor with a good balance of torque and speed . I never heard/read that you would 700 amp controller, I feel 500 amp would do fine .

SEHunter · 10-23-2017, 03:45 PM

You're right on the Black Widow being for EZ-GO. It's 19 spline. Robby at PQ told me this in an email. Grizzly is 15.5 peak hp and he recommends the GE 700 amp controller for best results.

The AMD 7114 "beast" has more peak hp at 19 but it weighs about 20lb less than the Grizzly?

SEHunter · 10-27-2017, 08:50 AM

Robby is about to start a custom motor for me. He refers to it as a super high torque motor, "Godzilla" Don't know the hp but torque is rated at 100 ft lb.

Swan · 10-27-2017, 02:37 PM

sweet , cant wait to see your results when you get that bad boy in .

NCPW · 10-27-2017, 03:26 PM

What did he estimate your top speed being?

10-22-2017, 10:11 AM	#1
SEHunter Gone Wild Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 258	Plum Quick Grizzly II vs Black Widow II Looking for the power specs of both of these motors as well as intended application. Unfortunately they're not specifically mentioned on the PQ web site. Are both of these considered torque motors? If anyone is running either of these, please share your experience. Thanks.

10-22-2017, 06:14 PM	#2
SEHunter Gone Wild Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 258	Re: Plum Quick Grizzly II vs Black Widow II Found an old thread in this sub forum from June 2016 where someone stated the Black Widow is 17.9 hp. Haven't come across anyone specifically stating the specs on the Grizzly. Nowhere I've seen where people are specifying if these numbers are peak or sustained. That makes a lot of difference when comparing different offerings from different mfg. Another thread says PQ told one guy the Black Widow needs a minimum of a 700 amp controller. Alltrax doesn't list a controller for 48 volt over 600. Maybe the SR-48600 would work since the sustained amp specs are higher than the old AXE line. This particular thread I believe was dated prior to the introduction of the Alltrax SR series.

10-23-2017, 08:00 AM	#3
Swan Cave Dweller Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Always On The Move Posts: 22,216	Re: Plum Quick Grizzly II vs Black Widow II Aren't they two different splines for two different drive systems

10-23-2017, 09:09 AM	#4
SEHunter Gone Wild Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 258	Re: Plum Quick Grizzly II vs Black Widow II I'm not sure and haven't come across that info before but it's possible. Would certainly help in narrowing down my decision.

10-23-2017, 09:13 AM	#5
SEHunter Gone Wild Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 258	Re: Plum Quick Grizzly II vs Black Widow II Not sure of the specs on you're Rattlesnake II but would the Alltrax SR-48600 supply enough power since they've increased the sustained amperage output? I read somewhere that a minimum of 700 amps was recommended for the RS. That's the other decision I have to make after I get the specs/application figured out for these two motors.

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10-23-2017, 09:44 AM	#6
Swan Cave Dweller Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Always On The Move Posts: 22,216	Re: Plum Quick Grizzly II vs Black Widow II the RS II is not a torque motor but more of a middle of the road motor with a good balance of torque and speed . I never heard/read that you would 700 amp controller, I feel 500 amp would do fine .

10-23-2017, 03:45 PM	#7
SEHunter Gone Wild Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 258	Re: Plum Quick Grizzly II vs Black Widow II You're right on the Black Widow being for EZ-GO. It's 19 spline. Robby at PQ told me this in an email. Grizzly is 15.5 peak hp and he recommends the GE 700 amp controller for best results. The AMD 7114 "beast" has more peak hp at 19 but it weighs about 20lb less than the Grizzly?

10-27-2017, 08:50 AM	#8
SEHunter Gone Wild Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 258	Re: Plum Quick Grizzly II vs Black Widow II Robby is about to start a custom motor for me. He refers to it as a super high torque motor, "Godzilla" Don't know the hp but torque is rated at 100 ft lb.

10-27-2017, 02:37 PM	#9
Swan Cave Dweller Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Always On The Move Posts: 22,216	Re: Plum Quick Grizzly II vs Black Widow II sweet , cant wait to see your results when you get that bad boy in .

10-27-2017, 03:26 PM	#10
NCPW Just Gone Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,549	Re: Plum Quick Grizzly II vs Black Widow II What did he estimate your top speed being?

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