Xtreme Voltage components

Andy4639 · 01-10-2012, 08:30 PM

This is for 72 volts. These are list's of electrical components that will get you started on your way.
The first list is if you want everything electric.
{ Pictures are for viewing only they may are may not be on a 72 volt cart}

1. Controller that can handle 72 volts
2. Contactor's for 72 volts, both main and F/R and Bypass if used
3. Cables to handle the amps
4. Motor to handle the voltage & amps

Alltrax 72 volt controller: 7245 24-72V
A big factor here is how long it will pull the amps. The 450amp is only good for 30 seconds and there is no rating from 30 seconds to 5 minutes so I can't say.
5minutes is 350amps
60 minutes is 200amps

Note these are 400amp F/R contactor: Should be good enough for most carts

Contact Ratings
Contact Form 2Z
Contact circuit Voltage and loading current(resistant) 84VDC Max 400A
Contact Resistance 30mohm Max.
20+-5C cold state max motion voltage(VDC) Pick-up <=70% of rated voltage
Drop-out 5%-30% of rated voltage
Mechanical life(Min.) 100,000 Ops
Electrical life(Min.) 50,000 Ops
Coil Ratings
Coil rated voltage 72VDC
Max coil current under the rated voltage 0.1A
With 20+-5C cold state starting coil max current

Specification
Insulation Resistance 100Mohm Min.
Dielectric strength Between Contacts 2000VAC.
Between coil and contacts 1500VAC.
Environment temperature and attitude -40C-+85C; 0-20000m
Max relative humidity 98%
The shocking of fixed point 1 Frequency(11Z) 10-200
Acceleration(g) <3.5
Shocking Speed(time/min.) 60-100
Acceleration(g) 4
Constant acceleration 8
Operation regulation Continue
Installation direction Random

72 volt 400 amp main contactor:

Contact Ratings
Contact Form 1H
Contact circuit Voltage and loading current(resistant) 84VDC Max 400A
Contact Resistance 30mohm Max.
20+-5C cold state max motion voltage(VDC) Pick-up <=70% of rated voltage
Drop-out 5%-30% of rated voltage
Machanical life(Min.) 100,000 Ops
Electrical life(Min.) 50,000 Ops
Coil Ratings
Coil rated voltage 24V,36V,48V,72V,84 VDC
Max coil current under the rated voltage 0.1A
With 20+-5C cold state starting coil max current

Specification
Insulation Resistance 100Mohm Min.
Dielectric strength Between Contacts 2000VAC.
Between coil and contacts 1500VAC.
Environment temperature and attitude -40C - +85C; 0-20000m
Max relative humidity 98%
The shocking of fixed point 1 Frequency(11Z) 10-200
Acceleration(g) <3.5
Shocking Speed(time/min.) 60-100
Acceleration(g) 4
Constant acceleration 8
Operation regulation Continue
Installation direction Random

I can't strees how much your cables and all the wiring must be in top shape for a high voltage cart. Everything needs to be check often and kept in very good shape. Cables should be crimped and heat shrinked at the least.

Motors can be ran at higher voltages as we all know but if your building a high voltage & amp cart make sure the motor will handle it.

If you want to go the old mechanical way to go from Forward to Reverse make sure you upgrade everything in the Mechanical F/R handle.
Stock and mine:
As far a s I know there is no upgrade springs are copper contacts for the F/R switch so replace the old ones with new parts. They are cheap.

Stock and mine:

Completely rebuilt with everything new.

Hope this helps some of you thinking about going 72 volts. If I can help just ask.

Gonkulor · 01-14-2012, 07:27 PM

Thanks Andy. Great info

Could you add the contactor P/Ns?

Coltf1991 · 01-17-2012, 08:19 PM

That is some beefy looking stuff there. Maybe one day I will go 72volts.

Andy4639 · 01-17-2012, 08:35 PM

These F/R parts are good for the everyday 48 volt cart as well if you have a high amp controller.

Andy4639 · 01-17-2012, 09:18 PM

Just found this. 72 volts 400amp peak. New for sale ready to be shipped.
I will be getting one soon.

blake80 · 01-17-2012, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy4639

Just found this. 72 volts 400amp peak. New for sale ready to be shipped.
I will be getting one soon.

What's the difference in this new controller vs the AXE other than a built in fan. I read the specs but I have no clue what I'm reading

Andy4639 · 01-17-2012, 11:02 PM

The big differance is the programing. You can make it work on any type cart you need it for. One controller for series carts. One controller for all Spex carts.

colbyc1984 · 01-18-2012, 11:34 PM

I ordered one today.the programming looks to be much easier than the axe series controllers.

Andy4639 · 01-18-2012, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colbyc1984

I ordered one today.the programming looks to be much easier than the axe series controllers.

Which one did you order? I want to hear about it!

colbyc1984 · 01-18-2012, 11:53 PM

The spm-72400

01-10-2012, 08:30 PM	#1
Andy4639 48/400/Alltrax HS motor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Liberty SC, Garden City SC Posts: 6,190	Xtreme Voltage components This is for 72 volts. These are list's of electrical components that will get you started on your way. The first list is if you want everything electric. { Pictures are for viewing only they may are may not be on a 72 volt cart} 1. Controller that can handle 72 volts 2. Contactor's for 72 volts, both main and F/R and Bypass if used 3. Cables to handle the amps 4. Motor to handle the voltage & amps Alltrax 72 volt controller: 7245 24-72V A big factor here is how long it will pull the amps. The 450amp is only good for 30 seconds and there is no rating from 30 seconds to 5 minutes so I can't say. 5minutes is 350amps 60 minutes is 200amps Note these are 400amp F/R contactor: Should be good enough for most carts Contact Ratings Contact Form 2Z Contact circuit Voltage and loading current(resistant) 84VDC Max 400A Contact Resistance 30mohm Max. 20+-5C cold state max motion voltage(VDC) Pick-up <=70% of rated voltage Drop-out 5%-30% of rated voltage Mechanical life(Min.) 100,000 Ops Electrical life(Min.) 50,000 Ops Coil Ratings Coil rated voltage 72VDC Max coil current under the rated voltage 0.1A With 20+-5C cold state starting coil max current Specification Insulation Resistance 100Mohm Min. Dielectric strength Between Contacts 2000VAC. Between coil and contacts 1500VAC. Environment temperature and attitude -40C-+85C; 0-20000m Max relative humidity 98% The shocking of fixed point 1 Frequency(11Z) 10-200 Acceleration(g) <3.5 Shocking Speed(time/min.) 60-100 Acceleration(g) 4 Constant acceleration 8 Operation regulation Continue Installation direction Random 72 volt 400 amp main contactor: Contact Ratings Contact Form 1H Contact circuit Voltage and loading current(resistant) 84VDC Max 400A Contact Resistance 30mohm Max. 20+-5C cold state max motion voltage(VDC) Pick-up <=70% of rated voltage Drop-out 5%-30% of rated voltage Machanical life(Min.) 100,000 Ops Electrical life(Min.) 50,000 Ops Coil Ratings Coil rated voltage 24V,36V,48V,72V,84 VDC Max coil current under the rated voltage 0.1A With 20+-5C cold state starting coil max current Specification Insulation Resistance 100Mohm Min. Dielectric strength Between Contacts 2000VAC. Between coil and contacts 1500VAC. Environment temperature and attitude -40C - +85C; 0-20000m Max relative humidity 98% The shocking of fixed point 1 Frequency(11Z) 10-200 Acceleration(g) <3.5 Shocking Speed(time/min.) 60-100 Acceleration(g) 4 Constant acceleration 8 Operation regulation Continue Installation direction Random I can't strees how much your cables and all the wiring must be in top shape for a high voltage cart. Everything needs to be check often and kept in very good shape. Cables should be crimped and heat shrinked at the least. Motors can be ran at higher voltages as we all know but if your building a high voltage & amp cart make sure the motor will handle it. If you want to go the old mechanical way to go from Forward to Reverse make sure you upgrade everything in the Mechanical F/R handle. Stock and mine: As far a s I know there is no upgrade springs are copper contacts for the F/R switch so replace the old ones with new parts. They are cheap. Stock and mine: Completely rebuilt with everything new. Hope this helps some of you thinking about going 72 volts. If I can help just ask.

01-14-2012, 07:27 PM	#2
Gonkulor Astronautilator Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: North Idaho Posts: 1,494	Re: Xtreme Voltage components Thanks Andy. Great info Could you add the contactor P/Ns?

01-17-2012, 08:19 PM	#3
Coltf1991 Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,901	Re: Xtreme Voltage components That is some beefy looking stuff there. Maybe one day I will go 72volts.

01-17-2012, 08:35 PM	#4
Andy4639 48/400/Alltrax HS motor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Liberty SC, Garden City SC Posts: 6,190	Re: Xtreme Voltage components These F/R parts are good for the everyday 48 volt cart as well if you have a high amp controller.

01-17-2012, 09:18 PM	#5
Andy4639 48/400/Alltrax HS motor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Liberty SC, Garden City SC Posts: 6,190	Re: Xtreme Voltage components Just found this. 72 volts 400amp peak. New for sale ready to be shipped. I will be getting one soon.

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01-17-2012, 11:02 PM	#7
Andy4639 48/400/Alltrax HS motor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Liberty SC, Garden City SC Posts: 6,190	Re: Xtreme Voltage components The big differance is the programing. You can make it work on any type cart you need it for. One controller for series carts. One controller for all Spex carts.

01-18-2012, 11:34 PM	#8
colbyc1984 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 46	Re: Xtreme Voltage components I ordered one today.the programming looks to be much easier than the axe series controllers.
colbyc1984 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 46

01-18-2012, 11:53 PM	#10
colbyc1984 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 46	Re: Xtreme Voltage components The spm-72400
colbyc1984 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 46

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